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I know this is always unpopular but, how about the name America? I refer to the country south of me as "the US" or "the USA". To me as a Canadian I live in the

I know this is always unpopular but, how about the name America? I refer to the country south of me as "the US" or "the USA". To me as a Canadian I live in the Americas so I could be an American. Growing up nobody I knew called the US "America" you'd even hear "the Boston States", I have no clue how that originated. But I've noticed over the past decade or two it's become more common for people in the US to refer to their country as America. I know it's a shortened form but still, to me, it's weird because: Europe, Europeans Africa, Africans Asia, Asians Americas, ? (demonym for people of the entire region?) I know some people counter with it's "North America dummy!" but wouldn't that mean the USA should be the USNA?

russellbeattie 8y ago
The terms America and Americans have been used for hundreds of years, not just the last decade or two. I've had this same conversation with Mexicans and people from South America. The U.S. was the first independent country in the Americas recognized by foreign countries and remained the only one for many years. The term American had been used by the British for years to refer to the colonies, and was adopted by the country itself. In his farewell address, George Washington said this: "The name of American, which belongs to you in your national capacity, must always exalt the just pride of patriotism more than any appellation." More than that, this is just what citizens of the U.S. are called. New Zealanders are Kiwis and Brits are Brits and Canadians are Canadians. Every nationality has a name, this is ours. The continents shouldn't be called America anyways, as Amerigo Vespuci had little to do with its discovery or exploration, but that's the way it is. In other words, this isn't some evil American power grab, and an insult to the rest of our Western Hemisphere neighbors, but a quirk of history that won't change any time soon.
- dgut 8y ago
  It's irrelevant what Washington or anybody else said. The common name for the North and South American landmasses is America (note: not Americas). The land between Canada and Mexico has no more rights to that name than the rest of the continent (or continents, depending on what model you prefer). Abroad, Hollywood has popularized the use of "American" to refer to citizens of the USA. Also, most languages don't have any other way to refer to US citizens because of its odd name. I'm only aware of Spanish "estadounidenses". It's no different than if the most powerful European country were to call themselves Europeans alone.
  - russellbeattie 8y ago
    The quote isn't irrelevant to the comment I was responding to, it was an example of its usage hundreds of years ago, loooong before Hollywood. Like I said above, it's a historical artifact, not some brazen attempt at linguistic hegemony. (Sorry, but the Americas is what the continents are called normally - in English at least - did you just make up a new rule? There's even a Wikipedia entry: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americas https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americas) Regardless, the name for Americans isn't changing any time soon, so I wouldn't get worked up about it. Besides, we are Americans in the most pedantic use of the term - if the Canadians, Mexicans and anyone else in this hemisphere wants to call themselves Americans too, they can go right ahead. They'll just seem petty and silly though.
    - liveoneggs 8y ago
      George Washington is a made-up Hollywood figure. Humanity only started around 60 years ago and the rest is just made up movie plots and children's books.
    - dgut 8y ago
      Its usage hundreds of years ago inside the US, yes. That's a pretty irrelevant argument for the rest of the remaining countries that are part of America, isn't it? No, the continent(s) have traditionally been called America. A look at Google Ngram Viewer shows that Americas has hardly been used. It's a recent phenomenon, probably a result of the US hijacking "America". Even I feel sometimes compelled to call it "Americas" in Europe because it has become a given that US=America. Not sure about the literature of the US, but in Latin American literature, writers have generally referred to the continent(s) as America, e.g http://www.historyofcuba.com/history/marti/America.htm http://www.historyofcuba.com/history/marti/America.htm The original map by Waldseemüller has "America" written on it: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/db/Waldseemuller_map_closeup_with_America.jpg/350px-Waldseemuller_map_closeup_with_America.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/db/Wa...
      - dguts 8y ago
abnry 8y ago
To be fair, the USA is the only country with America in it's name. And what would you call people who live in the United States other than Americans? Hop, skip and a jump to calling the place Americans live America.
- jraph 8y ago
  In French, some people say étasunien (or États-Unien, Étatsunien) to avoid saying américain. États-Unis d’Amérique meaning USA. https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/%C3%89tasunien https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/%C3%89tasunien
- TheForumTroll 8y ago
  I see more and more write USAnians. All from people that dislikes everything US but I like it!
  - toasterlovin 8y ago
    How do you say that out loud?
- Khaine 8y ago
  As an Australian, we'd call them Yanks :P
- ap3 8y ago
  Estadounidenses
  - toasterlovin 8y ago
    What about for people who speak English?
AnimalMuppet 8y ago
The official name of the country is The United States Of America. But that's too long for day-to-day use, so we need a shorter name. What do you want us to use? America? We get all these howls of protest, but what do you like better? United States? To call us that has the same problem. It's kind of unfair to the United Mexican States, don't you think? That leaves "The" and "Of". But we can't call ourselves those, because of The Dominion Of Canada. The short name for The United States Of America is "America". It just is. And we don't particularly care whether you like it or not. "The Boston states", if I understand correctly, does not refer to the entirety of the USA, but only to New England (Maine, Vermont, New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Connecticut - the states that center on Boston).

russellbeattie 8y ago

The terms America and Americans have been used for hundreds of years, not just the last decade or two. I've had this same conversation with Mexicans and people from South America. The U.S. was the first independent country in the Americas recognized by foreign countries and remained the only one for many years. The term American had been used by the British for years to refer to the colonies, and was adopted by the country itself. In his farewell address, George Washington said this: "The name of American, which belongs to you in your national capacity, must always exalt the just pride of patriotism more than any appellation." More than that, this is just what citizens of the U.S. are called. New Zealanders are Kiwis and Brits are Brits and Canadians are Canadians. Every nationality has a name, this is ours. The continents shouldn't be called America anyways, as Amerigo Vespuci had little to do with its discovery or exploration, but that's the way it is. In other words, this isn't some evil American power grab, and an insult to the rest of our Western Hemisphere neighbors, but a quirk of history that won't change any time soon.

dgut 8y ago
It's irrelevant what Washington or anybody else said. The common name for the North and South American landmasses is America (note: not Americas). The land between Canada and Mexico has no more rights to that name than the rest of the continent (or continents, depending on what model you prefer). Abroad, Hollywood has popularized the use of "American" to refer to citizens of the USA. Also, most languages don't have any other way to refer to US citizens because of its odd name. I'm only aware of Spanish "estadounidenses". It's no different than if the most powerful European country were to call themselves Europeans alone.
- russellbeattie 8y ago
  The quote isn't irrelevant to the comment I was responding to, it was an example of its usage hundreds of years ago, loooong before Hollywood. Like I said above, it's a historical artifact, not some brazen attempt at linguistic hegemony. (Sorry, but the Americas is what the continents are called normally - in English at least - did you just make up a new rule? There's even a Wikipedia entry: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americas https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americas) Regardless, the name for Americans isn't changing any time soon, so I wouldn't get worked up about it. Besides, we are Americans in the most pedantic use of the term - if the Canadians, Mexicans and anyone else in this hemisphere wants to call themselves Americans too, they can go right ahead. They'll just seem petty and silly though.
  - liveoneggs 8y ago
    George Washington is a made-up Hollywood figure. Humanity only started around 60 years ago and the rest is just made up movie plots and children's books.
  - dgut 8y ago
    Its usage hundreds of years ago inside the US, yes. That's a pretty irrelevant argument for the rest of the remaining countries that are part of America, isn't it? No, the continent(s) have traditionally been called America. A look at Google Ngram Viewer shows that Americas has hardly been used. It's a recent phenomenon, probably a result of the US hijacking "America". Even I feel sometimes compelled to call it "Americas" in Europe because it has become a given that US=America. Not sure about the literature of the US, but in Latin American literature, writers have generally referred to the continent(s) as America, e.g http://www.historyofcuba.com/history/marti/America.htm http://www.historyofcuba.com/history/marti/America.htm The original map by Waldseemüller has "America" written on it: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/db/Waldseemuller_map_closeup_with_America.jpg/350px-Waldseemuller_map_closeup_with_America.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/db/Wa...
    - dguts 8y ago

abnry 8y ago

To be fair, the USA is the only country with America in it's name. And what would you call people who live in the United States other than Americans? Hop, skip and a jump to calling the place Americans live America.

jraph 8y ago
In French, some people say étasunien (or États-Unien, Étatsunien) to avoid saying américain. États-Unis d’Amérique meaning USA. https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/%C3%89tasunien https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/%C3%89tasunien
TheForumTroll 8y ago
I see more and more write USAnians. All from people that dislikes everything US but I like it!
- toasterlovin 8y ago
  How do you say that out loud?
Khaine 8y ago
As an Australian, we'd call them Yanks :P
ap3 8y ago
Estadounidenses
- toasterlovin 8y ago
  What about for people who speak English?

AnimalMuppet 8y ago

The official name of the country is The United States Of America. But that's too long for day-to-day use, so we need a shorter name. What do you want us to use? America? We get all these howls of protest, but what do you like better? United States? To call us that has the same problem. It's kind of unfair to the United Mexican States, don't you think? That leaves "The" and "Of". But we can't call ourselves those, because of The Dominion Of Canada. The short name for The United States Of America is "America". It just is. And we don't particularly care whether you like it or not. "The Boston states", if I understand correctly, does not refer to the entirety of the USA, but only to New England (Maine, Vermont, New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Connecticut - the states that center on Boston).