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Yeah but the "standard" env is always behind(at least on the Go version) and on top of that you are even more locked in. The only real advantage of the standard

Yeah but the "standard" env is always behind(at least on the Go version) and on top of that you are even more locked in. The only real advantage of the standard environment is that you pay only for what you use. On the "fkexible" environment you must keep at least one instance live all the time. IMHO you should avoid GAE.

jchw 8y ago
Perhaps you should avoid GAE for hobby projects, but if you can afford it, it can save you some money in not needing any ops. For hobby sites you probably barely need ops.
- vira28 8y ago
  well, i don't use GAE too. All in with cloud functions. In fact, planning to migrate my payments backend to cloud functions this week.
- skybrian 8y ago
  Standard GAE is great for hobby projects due to the free tier. It's nice to still have a running server that I haven't touched in years. By contrast, I deployed an app on Digital Ocean and, though they have a solid product, I eventually shut the instance down to avoid paying the monthly fee on an app I rarely used.
mylesborins 8y ago
You might want to take a look at our talk from Google I/O about the new runtime https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogexnfng_hE&t=515s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogexnfng_hE&t=515s The new runtime is 100% idiomatic without any special apis. We do offer certain native libraries pre compiled system libraries (to support headless chrome among other things) and certain ENV Variables for gcp API tokens. You should be able to lift and shift a GAE Standard Node.js app to any other provider with minimal overhead. I can't make direct promises regarding the runtime update cadence, but I can promise that I work closely with the people responsible for this and they care a lot about getting updates out in a timely fashion. The new runtime stack makes this easier to do than previous GAE Standard runtimes. (Disclaimer: I work for GCP)
- elyobo 8y ago
  What's the reasoning behind the headless chrome inclusion? It seems a very niche thing to build in.
dirkgently 8y ago
> IMHO you should avoid GAE. And you should stop telling others what works best for them without knowing anything about what their projects and needs are.

jchw 8y ago

Perhaps you should avoid GAE for hobby projects, but if you can afford it, it can save you some money in not needing any ops. For hobby sites you probably barely need ops.

vira28 8y ago
well, i don't use GAE too. All in with cloud functions. In fact, planning to migrate my payments backend to cloud functions this week.
skybrian 8y ago
Standard GAE is great for hobby projects due to the free tier. It's nice to still have a running server that I haven't touched in years. By contrast, I deployed an app on Digital Ocean and, though they have a solid product, I eventually shut the instance down to avoid paying the monthly fee on an app I rarely used.

mylesborins 8y ago

You might want to take a look at our talk from Google I/O about the new runtime https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogexnfng_hE&t=515s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogexnfng_hE&t=515s The new runtime is 100% idiomatic without any special apis. We do offer certain native libraries pre compiled system libraries (to support headless chrome among other things) and certain ENV Variables for gcp API tokens. You should be able to lift and shift a GAE Standard Node.js app to any other provider with minimal overhead. I can't make direct promises regarding the runtime update cadence, but I can promise that I work closely with the people responsible for this and they care a lot about getting updates out in a timely fashion. The new runtime stack makes this easier to do than previous GAE Standard runtimes. (Disclaimer: I work for GCP)

elyobo 8y ago
What's the reasoning behind the headless chrome inclusion? It seems a very niche thing to build in.

dirkgently 8y ago

> IMHO you should avoid GAE. And you should stop telling others what works best for them without knowing anything about what their projects and needs are.