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You can't trade forex either, but those are all considered securities. That would be illegal. BTC isn't considered a security - https://coincenter.org/link/sec

You can't trade forex either, but those are all considered securities. That would be illegal. BTC isn't considered a security - https://coincenter.org/link/sec-chairman-clayton-bitcoin-is-not-a-security https://coincenter.org/link/sec-chairman-clayton-bitcoin-is-... No matter how you slice it this is the card provider making an arbitrary call, one that should be made at the processor level. Further down someone points out a bank banned the purchase of guns. Let me be clear that I have no love of americas relationship with firearms. But to decide that a CC can't be used to make an otherwise legal purchase is the beginning of a bad thing. As we become more cashless banks need to be more neutral in their dealings.

freeone3000 8y ago
If your argument is that bitcoin is not a security because it's a currency and that it continues to fall under SEC virtual currency guidelines, then wouldn't buying bitcoin be a forex transaction?
- zer00eyz 8y ago
  We can not class bitcoin as a security: A security is: "a thing deposited or pledged as a guarantee of the fulfillment of an undertaking or the repayment of a loan, to be forfeited in case of default." Bitcoin is an entity unto itself I can buy bitcoin and trade that DIRECTLY for goods - something that is impossible with securities. If bearer bonds were still a thing there might be some argument around directly transferable securities but that is no longer the case. If I buy on forex (in pips) I can not trade those to a merchant directly for anything - bitcoin can be purchased at an exchange (not a market but an exchange) and used to acquire goods directly. Lets look at the justification that the article gives: "A study conducted by LendEDU last year found that roughly 18 percent of Bitcoin investors used a credit card to fund the purchases. Of those, 22 percent couldn’t pay off their balance after buying the digital coin." What percentage of people can't pay their CC after a cash advance in a foreign country? How about after making a comparable major purchase. If we take those facets into account that %22 probably isn't far outside the industry average. There were lots of paths Wells (or the other banks listed) could have taken - this was not a good policy on the merits of what they are saying.

freeone3000 8y ago

If your argument is that bitcoin is not a security because it's a currency and that it continues to fall under SEC virtual currency guidelines, then wouldn't buying bitcoin be a forex transaction?

zer00eyz 8y ago
We can not class bitcoin as a security: A security is: "a thing deposited or pledged as a guarantee of the fulfillment of an undertaking or the repayment of a loan, to be forfeited in case of default." Bitcoin is an entity unto itself I can buy bitcoin and trade that DIRECTLY for goods - something that is impossible with securities. If bearer bonds were still a thing there might be some argument around directly transferable securities but that is no longer the case. If I buy on forex (in pips) I can not trade those to a merchant directly for anything - bitcoin can be purchased at an exchange (not a market but an exchange) and used to acquire goods directly. Lets look at the justification that the article gives: "A study conducted by LendEDU last year found that roughly 18 percent of Bitcoin investors used a credit card to fund the purchases. Of those, 22 percent couldn’t pay off their balance after buying the digital coin." What percentage of people can't pay their CC after a cash advance in a foreign country? How about after making a comparable major purchase. If we take those facets into account that %22 probably isn't far outside the industry average. There were lots of paths Wells (or the other banks listed) could have taken - this was not a good policy on the merits of what they are saying.