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This is hilarious because i'm seeing Moodle installations around the UK that are 4 years old with no patches. My partner works in higher education and they giv

This is hilarious because i'm seeing Moodle installations around the UK that are 4 years old with no patches. My partner works in higher education and they give her blank stares when she mentions how out of date they are. It's a culmination of "Not my problem" and "It works so why fix it?"

Already__Taken 8y ago
Moodle used to be provided for free as inclusion of the IT services provided by the local authorities. Local authorities stopped running schools (academy) and LA dropped moodle for free so school saw a free service turn into £3k+/year maintenance contract. And most schools started to get unhappy with moodle because it was hardly updated. IIRC they left the free moodle running at one major version and offered the service contract on the next major version up as a carrot.
- sofaofthedamned 8y ago
  Interesting, thank you. I did look at putting up on my partners domain just so she's got an instance that doesn't rely on a client (she works for Universities). Last time I looked it was all "dump this .tar.gz php stuff into a directory", it was like going back ten years. No standard containers, debs, rpms, anything. Maybe I didn't look hard enough...
  - Already__Taken 8y ago
    I think the only reason moodle i still around is as above (it was free) and some resources are published as packs for it, which are re-design archives of php and files that upload to a directory. I wasn't particularly impressed with it when I managed one. Drive + classroom is free as it the MS answer, I don't see moodle as a wise investment in time.
lostapathy 8y ago
The other problem is that Moodle can be a nightmare to upgrade, especially on older installations. At least in the olden days, the DB migrations were not super solid, so you'd run into issues later due to that. But worse, it seems like every school has a few pet plugins that are absolute garbage but they have to have - and either aren't maintained, or have horribly broken upgrades.

Already__Taken 8y ago

Moodle used to be provided for free as inclusion of the IT services provided by the local authorities. Local authorities stopped running schools (academy) and LA dropped moodle for free so school saw a free service turn into £3k+/year maintenance contract. And most schools started to get unhappy with moodle because it was hardly updated. IIRC they left the free moodle running at one major version and offered the service contract on the next major version up as a carrot.

sofaofthedamned 8y ago
Interesting, thank you. I did look at putting up on my partners domain just so she's got an instance that doesn't rely on a client (she works for Universities). Last time I looked it was all "dump this .tar.gz php stuff into a directory", it was like going back ten years. No standard containers, debs, rpms, anything. Maybe I didn't look hard enough...
- Already__Taken 8y ago
  I think the only reason moodle i still around is as above (it was free) and some resources are published as packs for it, which are re-design archives of php and files that upload to a directory. I wasn't particularly impressed with it when I managed one. Drive + classroom is free as it the MS answer, I don't see moodle as a wise investment in time.

lostapathy 8y ago

The other problem is that Moodle can be a nightmare to upgrade, especially on older installations. At least in the olden days, the DB migrations were not super solid, so you'd run into issues later due to that. But worse, it seems like every school has a few pet plugins that are absolute garbage but they have to have - and either aren't maintained, or have horribly broken upgrades.