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Would GDPR even cover this? I don't see why La Liga would need to include any personal information about the user in their data. They are concerned with ident

Would GDPR even cover this? I don't see why La Liga would need to include any personal information about the user in their data. They are concerned with identifying the buisness streaming pirated matches, not who is watching. Edit: The official statement actually answers this >The codes will not refer to your name, but to your IP address and the specific ID assigned by the PPP when you register.

paulcole 8y ago
If someone's recording the sounds around me, I don't see anyway that's not personal information about me.
- Tharkun 8y ago
  Who would be the guilty party here? If your phone is spying on me, I'll likely get angry with you. The fact that you're a victim of the football league isn't my problem, you're the one doing the spying.
  - chopin 8y ago
    La Liga of course. They are recording data about me, without my consent. Doing it through some third party (the phone owner) doesn't absolve them.
    - Tharkun 8y ago
      You're probably right, but doesn't the owner of the phone share some responsibility?
      - chopin 8y ago
        I would think so. I would love to see authorities going after both. That would set a wonderful precedent.
tupilaq 8y ago
Well, that (IP address and specific ID) probably constitutes information from which the identity of a natural living person can be discerned and therefore does fall under the protections of GDPR. However, that by itself doesn't mean you can't collect it, just that you need to have specifically asked for their informed consent and not hidden this purpose away in a changelog.
brownbat 8y ago
Isn't this really gathering data about a nonconsenting third party, the business? Does GDPR generally allow you or your apps to collect information that helps identify legal and moral transgressions around you? What if you are watching the game at a friend's house? The collection is definitely going to have some false positives. In that case the coordinates would identify your friend. It seems like deputizing devices to spy on others. Regardless if those others may be doing something wrong or are caught up by accident, it seems like the sort of thing data protection would prevent. This will be a good test of real competing interests. I don't know that privacy should win in the end here, but both sides actually have powerful prima facie cases to make.

paulcole 8y ago

If someone's recording the sounds around me, I don't see anyway that's not personal information about me.

Tharkun 8y ago
Who would be the guilty party here? If your phone is spying on me, I'll likely get angry with you. The fact that you're a victim of the football league isn't my problem, you're the one doing the spying.
- chopin 8y ago
  La Liga of course. They are recording data about me, without my consent. Doing it through some third party (the phone owner) doesn't absolve them.
  - Tharkun 8y ago
    You're probably right, but doesn't the owner of the phone share some responsibility?
    - chopin 8y ago
      I would think so. I would love to see authorities going after both. That would set a wonderful precedent.

tupilaq 8y ago

Well, that (IP address and specific ID) probably constitutes information from which the identity of a natural living person can be discerned and therefore does fall under the protections of GDPR. However, that by itself doesn't mean you can't collect it, just that you need to have specifically asked for their informed consent and not hidden this purpose away in a changelog.

brownbat 8y ago

Isn't this really gathering data about a nonconsenting third party, the business? Does GDPR generally allow you or your apps to collect information that helps identify legal and moral transgressions around you? What if you are watching the game at a friend's house? The collection is definitely going to have some false positives. In that case the coordinates would identify your friend. It seems like deputizing devices to spy on others. Regardless if those others may be doing something wrong or are caught up by accident, it seems like the sort of thing data protection would prevent. This will be a good test of real competing interests. I don't know that privacy should win in the end here, but both sides actually have powerful prima facie cases to make.