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Apparently Musk really pissed off the media with his talks about creating a media ratings/fact-checking site. I'm actually following it closely because I'm als

Apparently Musk really pissed off the media with his talks about creating a media ratings/fact-checking site. I'm actually following it closely because I'm also working on a fact-checking project. Maybe the hate predates this incident and has little to do with it, but a few weeks of negative articles can do a lot to change some people's attitudes. At one point CNN had an opinion piece on the homepage titled "Elon Musk is Humiliating Himself" - that can't be helpful.

madeofpalk 8y ago
Scepticism for Musk/Tesla has been around for much much longer than the fact-checking site idea.
- newman8r 8y ago
  True, although I'd never seen him attacked as harshly as he has been recently. This time it was a lot more personal.
- Clubber 8y ago
  Yes, but this seems new and improved. Media articles were mostly gushing over him for the longest time, now there seem to be much more negative articles and comments floating around. It seems somewhat engineered.
dalbasal 8y ago
Ok, so that covers the media. What did he do to piss of hn?
- newman8r 8y ago
  I assume most HN readers are impacted by attitudes in the media. We like to think all of our opinions are our own but it's not always the case.
- prewett 8y ago
  It's his repeated blatant disconnection from reality (a.k.a. technically not lying, but...) in his remarks regarding production levels of the Model 3, regarding Tesla's financial state, and most importantly, regarding the capabilities of "autopilot" and refusal to take responsibility for technical failures in said "autopilot." I wouldn't say HN is mad at him so much as wanting him to be responsible and own up to reality. He's supposed to be an engineer, and Proper engineers don't engage in "spin." Furthermore, "spin" has to be somewhat believable, whereas Musk has had a recent history of blatant falsehoods. Just like HN calls out anyone else when they're wrong (that is, disconnected from reality), HN is calling out Musk now that he's verbally disconnected from reality. HN has a low BS threshold.

madeofpalk 8y ago

Scepticism for Musk/Tesla has been around for much much longer than the fact-checking site idea.

newman8r 8y ago
True, although I'd never seen him attacked as harshly as he has been recently. This time it was a lot more personal.
Clubber 8y ago
Yes, but this seems new and improved. Media articles were mostly gushing over him for the longest time, now there seem to be much more negative articles and comments floating around. It seems somewhat engineered.

dalbasal 8y ago

Ok, so that covers the media. What did he do to piss of hn?

newman8r 8y ago
I assume most HN readers are impacted by attitudes in the media. We like to think all of our opinions are our own but it's not always the case.
prewett 8y ago
It's his repeated blatant disconnection from reality (a.k.a. technically not lying, but...) in his remarks regarding production levels of the Model 3, regarding Tesla's financial state, and most importantly, regarding the capabilities of "autopilot" and refusal to take responsibility for technical failures in said "autopilot." I wouldn't say HN is mad at him so much as wanting him to be responsible and own up to reality. He's supposed to be an engineer, and Proper engineers don't engage in "spin." Furthermore, "spin" has to be somewhat believable, whereas Musk has had a recent history of blatant falsehoods. Just like HN calls out anyone else when they're wrong (that is, disconnected from reality), HN is calling out Musk now that he's verbally disconnected from reality. HN has a low BS threshold.