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> Are you actually arguing that workers were not oppressed in the US during the industrial Revolution? Compared to the manual subsistence farm labor they were
by Turing_Machine 8y ago
> Are you actually arguing that workers were not oppressed in the US during the industrial Revolution?
Compared to the manual subsistence farm labor they were doing before, you mean?
Rural workers flocked to the new factories because it was better than what they had before. You see the exact same process playing out in China right now.
Most of the Amazon warehouses are located in semi-rural areas that didn't have available jobs of any sort before.
- lovich 8y agoIt may have been less oppressing but it was still oppression. Also I'd argue that they _thought_ it would be better, not that it was. We don't have perfect information to make rational choices and they certainly didn't have it back before a global communications system existed. The factory owners routinely lied and changed the deal on employees. Regardless you stated that none of the opression that happened in Europe to workers happened in the US and that is probably false. If you had a source for that quote from Marx, I would like to see it
- Turing_Machine 8y ago> It may have been less oppressing but it was still oppression. Well, by that argument anything short of perfection is unacceptable. > Also I'd argue that they _thought_ it would be better, not that it was. It was demonstrably better. Median income (measured in constant dollars), lifespan, and education levels all took a dramatic jump over the course of the 19th Century, both in the U.K. and the United States. > Regardless you stated that none of the opression that happened in Europe to workers happened in the US and that is probably false. I stated nothing of the sort. You're confusing me with another poster.
- lovich 8y agoYou are correct on me confusing you with the poster I originally replied to, my bad