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Claims no production staff were affected. Don't know the employee breakdown but imagine production is a huge portion of it. Hard to believe entire other divis
by whatok 8y ago
Claims no production staff were affected. Don't know the employee breakdown but imagine production is a huge portion of it. Hard to believe entire other divisions weren't completely eliminated if production not touched.
- paulpauper 8y agocould be sales and marketing
- moolcool 8y agoI thought Tesla had no marketing dept?
- bduerst 8y agoI'm not sure where you heard that: https://g.co/kgs/3va2C3 https://g.co/kgs/3va2C3
- elicash 8y agoMusk has said no advertising. They do have marketing staff. https://www.investopedia.com/terms/f/four-ps.asp https://www.investopedia.com/terms/f/four-ps.asp
- ameister14 8y agoThey don't have an advertising dept. They have a small marketing team.
- bjl 8y agoWhere do people get this from? Their filings clearly state they spend millions a quarter on marketing.
- makomk 8y agoProbably from half-remembered Tesla marketing spiel, at a guess.
- george_morgan 8y agoConsidering demand for product is outstripping their ability to produce product, their sales & marketing teams are setting a high standard of work the rest of the company has yet to meet. Feels a little unfair if they were the ones getting axed.
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- JohnJamesRambo 8y agoOr maybe they aren't needed at all? Most people I know that want a Tesla have wanted one forever and weren't really coerced into it by sales and marketing.
- dannyw 8y agoThe best marketing is the one you don’t realise.
- mygo 8y agoThey may not have had a sales guy come knocking on their front door, but if you think they weren’t marketed to, then Tesla did an excellent job of marketing.
- george_morgan 8y agoAh, but marketing isn’t simply coercion or persuasion. For instance, if you’re gathering requirements from customers before, during and after the development of a product you’re doing marketing whether you realise it or not.
- sdhgaiojfsa 8y agoAll other things being equal, the more compelling the product, the less you need to market it to achieve a given level of interest. Tesla cars are SUPER compelling on a lot of levels. I would be surprised to hear that they need the same level of marketing effort as weaker entrants from other car companies.
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- gk1 8y agoGiven they admitted to over-relying on automation, I doubt they'd be cutting production staff now. It's not difficult to find 9% of the workforce in other departments: sales, marketing, operations, engineering, etc.
- jonknee 8y agoI think most companies would have a hard time finding 3,500 people to fire and not have it effect anything. Especially ones that describe themselves as a "growth company".
- jVinc 8y agoMost companies would have a hard time finding that many people to fire because they weren't that big. Most companies would have no problem finding 1 in 10 to fire in a downsizing.
- madeofpalk 8y agoAlso given they're having trouble with that manufacturing output, I can't imagine firing those people would help things out. AFAIK there's no such thing has the "reverse mythical man month" - removing people from a late running project speeds it up.
- sulam 8y agoThere's definitely cases where removing a person from a project speeds it up. Just to name a few: * the person removed is a distraction to the team in some way, possibly outside of their control * the team is over the two-pizza limit, and coordination costs are out of control * roles between individuals aren't clear, and removing one of them makes it obvious, removing a source of confusion [edit: added some examples]
- sobani 8y ago> the two-pizza limit OT, but can someone please explain this to me? From what I understand this is a team size that you can still feed with two pizzas. But how is this different from just saying "the two-person limit"? When I'm with friends, we order one pizza per person. On occasion, when I haven't eaten a lot during the day, I've ordered two pizzas just for myself. And I'm a regular sized Dutch guy, so not one of those stereotypical Americans that can win eating contests.
- ryanmercer 8y agoHead over to LinkedIN and search 'tesla recruiter'. I stopped counting current employees at 100. Whey the hell does a company need 100 or more recruiters...