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I see what you're trying to say, but you're extending the OP's comment to address a point he's not making. If an individual has adopted a characteristic slogan

I see what you're trying to say, but you're extending the OP's comment to address a point he's not making. If an individual has adopted a characteristic slogan, and that individual makes racist statements, then the slogan can reasonably said to be linked to racist ideas. Note that this analysis doesn't need to include any third parties.

protomyth 8y ago
If an individual has adopted a characteristic slogan, and that individual makes racist statements, then the slogan can reasonably said to be linked to racist ideas. No, that is not a true statement since I can basically make it impossible to say anything by adopting that idea. Number two, your view of what is racist statements if you are talking about the President is skewed. Immigration is a hot button topic, but wanting to reign in immigration is not racist ask anyone fired because their company brought in H1B workers and they had to train them before hitting the road. Heck, the recent hubbub over calling MS-13 animals and then saying its racist shows how screwed these views are. The professor was obviously having some fun and its a great paper. Stop trying to make people feel bad because you are offended. I swear, people would claim, "I Like Ike" is racist if it was a 2016 campaign slogan.
- ModernMech 8y ago
  The slogan was that of a campaign that was launched on the premise that most Mexicans coming to this country are rapists and murderers, and that by the law of large numbers some end up being good people. Immigration is a hot button issue, but the President has fanned those flames considerably since he came on the scene, and every colored person and minority in this country has felt it. Every KKK member if you ask them will tell you they feel emboldened and empowered by this President in large part due to his rhetoric. If you ask any of your friends of color, they'll tell you things are markedly different now, in large part due to the rhetoric of this President. MAGA is completely tied in with that rhetoric, because what does it imply. What exactly was proposed by the MAGA coalition? - Build a wall to keep out brown people - Prevent Muslims from entering the country - Judges of Mexican descent are unable to do their job because of their race - Inner cities are hellscapes that require law and order and perhaps the national guard to regain peace - Homosexuals don't deserve the same rights as the rest of us (ask any Trump supporter if they believe Trump believes in gay marriage and they will tell you no) - Women deserve to be mocked, disbelieved, assaulted, and their bodies controlled, and there are no repercussions for doing so. That's what MAGA represents to 50% of the population. So if you want to bring it up in your technical document as a little side quip, and not give a shit about what your readers think, more power to you. But as someone interested in Prolog and would like to see it have a renaissance, I was lost as a reader on the cover page. I don't want to be reminded about the guy at the grocery store telling me to get out of "His" country and go back to where I came from while reading technical documents. MAGA. > Heck, the recent hubbub over calling MS-13 animals and then saying its racist shows how screwed these views are. Strange how brown gang members are clearly, unequivocally all animals, but this President has to point out in a group of white torch-bearing khaki-clad Nazis there are still good people! I wonder how many white children in America are separated from their families and held in cages in windowless detention facilities in accordance with official DOJ policy.
  - protomyth 8y ago
    ask any Trump supporter if they believe Trump believes in gay marriage and they will tell you no This basically could be the summary line of everything you wrote. Its about as true as the rest. If you pervert everything and don't actually listen its about as believable as Strange how brown gang members are clearly, unequivocally all animals, but this President has to point out in a group of white torch-bearing khaki-clad Nazis there are still good people!. Go look at some of the pictures of what MS-13 does, and I would hope animal is the least descriptive word. I do blame the media because they know the outrage sells, but it comes at a cost. That's what MAGA represents to 50% of the population. So if you want to bring it up in your technical document as a little side quip, and not give a shit about what your readers think, more power to you. But as someone interested in Prolog and would like to see it have a renaissance, I was lost as a reader on the cover page. I don't want to be reminded about the guy at the grocery store telling me to get out of "His" country and go back to where I came from while reading technical documents. MAGA. I suppose you have similar objections to the late night comics and Tony awards? Just read the paper about an amazing language and understand that about 50% aren't monsters and don't hate people.
    - ModernMech 8y ago
      > I do blame the media because they know the outrage sells, but it comes at a cost. I hardly listen to the media. I listen to the President's words and watch his actions. Trump accused a judge of being unfit due to his racial heritage, not the media. Trump called for a ban of all Muslims entering the US. "Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on" I believe were his exact words. You claim media bias, whereas I see a string of clearly racist behavior. > I suppose you have similar objections to the late night comics and Tony awards? I don't watch late night comedy or the Tony awards. I read scientific papers. I think there is a problem with marginalization of minorities in tech. I'm not the only one. > Just read the paper about an amazing language and understand that about 50% aren't monsters and don't hate people. Okay, I'll agree to read the paper and consider what you say, if you'll agree to consider that some people are monsters; said monsters say they feel emboldened by this president (just ask them); and that some people have to face said monsters at a higher frequency than others due to the nature of their skin, religion, sexual orientation, etc.; and maybe these people look toward tech to be a respite from that. Some people face monsters down on the sidewalk, at work, at school, at the dentist, in traffic, and now of all places in a Prolog paper. And despite the fact that tech writ large likes to champion a message of inclusivity, there seems to be a strong under-current with a desire to prop up messages of exclusivity. Just consider it.

protomyth 8y ago

If an individual has adopted a characteristic slogan, and that individual makes racist statements, then the slogan can reasonably said to be linked to racist ideas. No, that is not a true statement since I can basically make it impossible to say anything by adopting that idea. Number two, your view of what is racist statements if you are talking about the President is skewed. Immigration is a hot button topic, but wanting to reign in immigration is not racist ask anyone fired because their company brought in H1B workers and they had to train them before hitting the road. Heck, the recent hubbub over calling MS-13 animals and then saying its racist shows how screwed these views are. The professor was obviously having some fun and its a great paper. Stop trying to make people feel bad because you are offended. I swear, people would claim, "I Like Ike" is racist if it was a 2016 campaign slogan.

ModernMech 8y ago
The slogan was that of a campaign that was launched on the premise that most Mexicans coming to this country are rapists and murderers, and that by the law of large numbers some end up being good people. Immigration is a hot button issue, but the President has fanned those flames considerably since he came on the scene, and every colored person and minority in this country has felt it. Every KKK member if you ask them will tell you they feel emboldened and empowered by this President in large part due to his rhetoric. If you ask any of your friends of color, they'll tell you things are markedly different now, in large part due to the rhetoric of this President. MAGA is completely tied in with that rhetoric, because what does it imply. What exactly was proposed by the MAGA coalition? - Build a wall to keep out brown people - Prevent Muslims from entering the country - Judges of Mexican descent are unable to do their job because of their race - Inner cities are hellscapes that require law and order and perhaps the national guard to regain peace - Homosexuals don't deserve the same rights as the rest of us (ask any Trump supporter if they believe Trump believes in gay marriage and they will tell you no) - Women deserve to be mocked, disbelieved, assaulted, and their bodies controlled, and there are no repercussions for doing so. That's what MAGA represents to 50% of the population. So if you want to bring it up in your technical document as a little side quip, and not give a shit about what your readers think, more power to you. But as someone interested in Prolog and would like to see it have a renaissance, I was lost as a reader on the cover page. I don't want to be reminded about the guy at the grocery store telling me to get out of "His" country and go back to where I came from while reading technical documents. MAGA. > Heck, the recent hubbub over calling MS-13 animals and then saying its racist shows how screwed these views are. Strange how brown gang members are clearly, unequivocally all animals, but this President has to point out in a group of white torch-bearing khaki-clad Nazis there are still good people! I wonder how many white children in America are separated from their families and held in cages in windowless detention facilities in accordance with official DOJ policy.
- protomyth 8y ago
  ask any Trump supporter if they believe Trump believes in gay marriage and they will tell you no This basically could be the summary line of everything you wrote. Its about as true as the rest. If you pervert everything and don't actually listen its about as believable as Strange how brown gang members are clearly, unequivocally all animals, but this President has to point out in a group of white torch-bearing khaki-clad Nazis there are still good people!. Go look at some of the pictures of what MS-13 does, and I would hope animal is the least descriptive word. I do blame the media because they know the outrage sells, but it comes at a cost. That's what MAGA represents to 50% of the population. So if you want to bring it up in your technical document as a little side quip, and not give a shit about what your readers think, more power to you. But as someone interested in Prolog and would like to see it have a renaissance, I was lost as a reader on the cover page. I don't want to be reminded about the guy at the grocery store telling me to get out of "His" country and go back to where I came from while reading technical documents. MAGA. I suppose you have similar objections to the late night comics and Tony awards? Just read the paper about an amazing language and understand that about 50% aren't monsters and don't hate people.
  - ModernMech 8y ago
    > I do blame the media because they know the outrage sells, but it comes at a cost. I hardly listen to the media. I listen to the President's words and watch his actions. Trump accused a judge of being unfit due to his racial heritage, not the media. Trump called for a ban of all Muslims entering the US. "Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on" I believe were his exact words. You claim media bias, whereas I see a string of clearly racist behavior. > I suppose you have similar objections to the late night comics and Tony awards? I don't watch late night comedy or the Tony awards. I read scientific papers. I think there is a problem with marginalization of minorities in tech. I'm not the only one. > Just read the paper about an amazing language and understand that about 50% aren't monsters and don't hate people. Okay, I'll agree to read the paper and consider what you say, if you'll agree to consider that some people are monsters; said monsters say they feel emboldened by this president (just ask them); and that some people have to face said monsters at a higher frequency than others due to the nature of their skin, religion, sexual orientation, etc.; and maybe these people look toward tech to be a respite from that. Some people face monsters down on the sidewalk, at work, at school, at the dentist, in traffic, and now of all places in a Prolog paper. And despite the fact that tech writ large likes to champion a message of inclusivity, there seems to be a strong under-current with a desire to prop up messages of exclusivity. Just consider it.