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psychiatry != psychology. Do not over generalize. Psychiatry has many problems, namely overprescribing pharmaceuticals, but is it not the same thing as "social

psychiatry != psychology. Do not over generalize. Psychiatry has many problems, namely overprescribing pharmaceuticals, but is it not the same thing as "social science", it is an actual branch of medicine, and a psychiatrist has to complete medical school,psychiatric specialization, and residency.

dalbasal 8y ago
Erm.... Idk. What was Freud then? These are certainly separate fields in terms of accreditation, but in terms of academia, they're really subdisciplines.
- SketchySeaBeast 8y ago
  Sigmund Freud was a 19th century doctor. The modern medical field is not comparable to the one 150 years ago when the treatment of most things was "go breathe near the ocean for a bit".
  - moosey 8y ago
    tbh, going to take a nice couple of breaths next to the ocean sounds like it would do me a lot of good at the moment.
    - SketchySeaBeast 8y ago
      For relaxation absolutely - for polio, not as great.
  - dangerbird2 8y ago
    Also, no serious 21st century psychologist or psychiatrist would consider Freud's theories to have any validity other than for interpreting Shakespeare plays. Freud's psychodynamic psychology has been long eclipsed by behavioral, cognitive, and evolutionary subfields that have much stronger experimental standards than Freud had (most of his hypotheses came from case sudies of a handful of his patients).
    - testvox 8y ago
      Um I have a family friend who is a practicing psychoanalyst. They are still eligible for license in all States and remain a popular form of psychotherapy. So don't be so sure the field has moved past Freud. They still think his theories are valid enough to use on people.
      - SketchySeaBeast 8y ago
        According to Wikipedia, it has evolved since Freud, so it may not be valid to say it hasn't moved past Freud. On the other hand, I'm sure homeopathy has changed in that time as well.
- neuromantik8086 8y ago
  Former psych major here. At my undergrad, the psychiatry and psychotherapy tracks were actually in separate departments (neuroscience and psychology respectively). There was actually a world of difference between the two, and it's one of my post-graduation regrets that I didn't choose the more rigorous / intellectually satisfying department for my major.
- donutte 8y ago
  At least in the US... A psychiatrist is a physician. They go to the same schools as future radiologists, surgeons, and general practitioners. They learn gross anatomy by dissecting cadavers. They work 80 hour weeks learning to perform medical procedures on actual patients. After that, as doctors, they receive specialized clinical training in years-long residency programs. They are licensed by state medical boards in addition to their own professional orgs. A psychiatrist is authorized to hand you a prescription for antibiotics, for amphetamines, for opioids. Christ, a psychiatrist is authorized to detain you on their credibility alone for upwards of 48 hours, arguably exceeding the legal detention power of the police. Psychologists are certainly competent, well-educated experts in their discipline, but they don’t and can’t do all that. Of course the two deal with loosely related subjects, but there is very little comparison between them in any practical sense.

dalbasal 8y ago

Erm.... Idk. What was Freud then? These are certainly separate fields in terms of accreditation, but in terms of academia, they're really subdisciplines.

SketchySeaBeast 8y ago
Sigmund Freud was a 19th century doctor. The modern medical field is not comparable to the one 150 years ago when the treatment of most things was "go breathe near the ocean for a bit".
- moosey 8y ago
  tbh, going to take a nice couple of breaths next to the ocean sounds like it would do me a lot of good at the moment.
  - SketchySeaBeast 8y ago
    For relaxation absolutely - for polio, not as great.
- dangerbird2 8y ago
  Also, no serious 21st century psychologist or psychiatrist would consider Freud's theories to have any validity other than for interpreting Shakespeare plays. Freud's psychodynamic psychology has been long eclipsed by behavioral, cognitive, and evolutionary subfields that have much stronger experimental standards than Freud had (most of his hypotheses came from case sudies of a handful of his patients).
  - testvox 8y ago
    Um I have a family friend who is a practicing psychoanalyst. They are still eligible for license in all States and remain a popular form of psychotherapy. So don't be so sure the field has moved past Freud. They still think his theories are valid enough to use on people.
    - SketchySeaBeast 8y ago
      According to Wikipedia, it has evolved since Freud, so it may not be valid to say it hasn't moved past Freud. On the other hand, I'm sure homeopathy has changed in that time as well.
neuromantik8086 8y ago
Former psych major here. At my undergrad, the psychiatry and psychotherapy tracks were actually in separate departments (neuroscience and psychology respectively). There was actually a world of difference between the two, and it's one of my post-graduation regrets that I didn't choose the more rigorous / intellectually satisfying department for my major.
donutte 8y ago
At least in the US... A psychiatrist is a physician. They go to the same schools as future radiologists, surgeons, and general practitioners. They learn gross anatomy by dissecting cadavers. They work 80 hour weeks learning to perform medical procedures on actual patients. After that, as doctors, they receive specialized clinical training in years-long residency programs. They are licensed by state medical boards in addition to their own professional orgs. A psychiatrist is authorized to hand you a prescription for antibiotics, for amphetamines, for opioids. Christ, a psychiatrist is authorized to detain you on their credibility alone for upwards of 48 hours, arguably exceeding the legal detention power of the police. Psychologists are certainly competent, well-educated experts in their discipline, but they don’t and can’t do all that. Of course the two deal with loosely related subjects, but there is very little comparison between them in any practical sense.