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Not a huge surprise if you followed rust a few years back: http://slash-r-slash-rust.github.io/archived/2u1dme.html http://slash-r-slash-rust.github.io/archive

Not a huge surprise if you followed rust a few years back: http://slash-r-slash-rust.github.io/archived/2u1dme.html http://slash-r-slash-rust.github.io/archived/2u1dme.html

Sean1708 8y ago
Sorry if I'm missing something obvious, but what does Rust have to do with CopperheadOS?
- Operyl 8y ago
  They're pointing to the disagreement between Rust developers and strncat (the CTO of COS, and an influential contributor to Rust).
  - Sean1708 8y ago
    Ah ok, so I'm guessing that strcat is Daniel Micay then? That wasn't obvious to me (I initially thought that Mozilla might have been funding CopperheadOS or something).
    - Operyl 8y ago
      Yep, Daniel Micay == strncat.
agumonkey 8y ago
didn't know Graydon Hoare left rust o_o ps: the archived date confused me, just in case, this is a 3yo thread https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/2u1dme/daniel_micay/ https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/2u1dme/daniel_micay/ (enjoy the art)
- DyslexicAtheist 8y ago
  yikes, what happened here?
  - kibwen 8y ago
    /r/rust mod here, strcat asked us to remove the thread in order to keep it from being associated with his real name in Google search results etc. In order to keep the useful discussion in that thread from being lost entirely I created the archived version seen above, with his real name redacted.
    - exikyut 8y ago
      Hang on a very very large second here. I thought you couldn't edit post titles on reddit, and especially not 3 years ago. Please please clarify. Context: From Title ID Date github.io "[strcat]" 2u1dme Thu Jan 29 02:39:34 2015 UTC reddit "Daniel Micay" 2u1dme Thu Jan 29 02:39:34 2015 UTC It's exactly the same post. EDIT: This is now at 0 points. If I have missed something or misunderstand I welcome clarification. Thanks very much!
      - dkmb 8y ago
        Check the URL of the archived thread.
        exikyut 8y ago
        Okay, I've done that. The only thing I can think of to specifically look at is the ID fragment. I see the same ID in the archived thread on reddit.com and the archived thread stored on github.io (I'm not sure which source to disambiguate "archived thread" to). My point was/is that the threads are identical, and given the different titles points to an supposedly-impossible ability to change thread titles. This is very interesting to me. In case I'm [still] missing the point you're trying to get at. Further clarification and patience is appreciated.
        rcxdude 8y ago
        he explained the point. The archived copy has been redacted, the whole reason the archive exists (and the original deleted) is because its impossible to redact the information on reddit while leaving the rest of the post intact.
staticassertion 8y ago
What are you trying to imply? This seems entirely unrelated.
- surrealize 8y ago
  It's another example of Daniel Micay (strcat) contributing technically to something, having a falling out with other folks involved with it, then quitting in a huff.
  - staticassertion 8y ago
    I think that's a really overly simplistic view of the Rust situation and an unnecessary comment on the current situation. Daniel did not 'quit in a huff' or even quit at all. This belittles his contributions and the situation he's been put in.
    - surrealize 8y ago
      I saw how badly he treated people in the rust community, so I have zero doubt that his problems dealing with people played a role in the current situation. Didn't intend to belittle his contributions though; he contributed significantly to rust and (as I understand it) did ~everything technically on CopperheadOS.
      - axlprose 8y ago
        This is an extremely disingenuous interpretation of events, and seems to be given for no other purpose than to shame the clear victim of an abusive business partner. This has nothing to do with how he worked with rust developers, and even Graydon made it clear in that thread that strcat was always justified in his interactions with them. It is extremely dishonest to spin this around and use it to suggest such a ridiculous level of dishonesty.
        tomjakubowski 8y ago
        > This has nothing to do with how he worked with rust developers, and even Graydon made it clear in that thread that strcat was always justified in his interactions with them. No, Graydon really said nothing of the sort. https://slash-r-slash-rust.github.io/archived/2u1dme.html#co4uurq https://slash-r-slash-rust.github.io/archived/2u1dme.html#co... "[strcat] is an outstanding technical voice, everyone knows that. He is also an uncompromising technical voice who quickly becomes defensive, critical, sarcastic, belittling, insulting and accusatory when his (often correct) views are not acted-upon by others quickly enough or to his satisfaction. He needs to work on his communication style. He's stepped way over the line of the CoC repeatedly, and if I were still in a leadership role, I probably would have had to ask him to leave by now. It pains me to say that."

Not a huge surprise if you followed rust a few years back: http://slash-r-slash-rust.github.io/archived/2u1dme.html http://slash-r-slash-rust.github.io/archived/2u1dme.html

Sean1708 8y ago

Sorry if I'm missing something obvious, but what does Rust have to do with CopperheadOS?

Operyl 8y ago
They're pointing to the disagreement between Rust developers and strncat (the CTO of COS, and an influential contributor to Rust).
- Sean1708 8y ago
  Ah ok, so I'm guessing that strcat is Daniel Micay then? That wasn't obvious to me (I initially thought that Mozilla might have been funding CopperheadOS or something).
  - Operyl 8y ago
    Yep, Daniel Micay == strncat.

agumonkey 8y ago

didn't know Graydon Hoare left rust o_o ps: the archived date confused me, just in case, this is a 3yo thread https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/2u1dme/daniel_micay/ https://www.reddit.com/r/rust/comments/2u1dme/daniel_micay/ (enjoy the art)

DyslexicAtheist 8y ago
yikes, what happened here?
- kibwen 8y ago
  /r/rust mod here, strcat asked us to remove the thread in order to keep it from being associated with his real name in Google search results etc. In order to keep the useful discussion in that thread from being lost entirely I created the archived version seen above, with his real name redacted.
  - exikyut 8y ago
    Hang on a very very large second here. I thought you couldn't edit post titles on reddit, and especially not 3 years ago. Please please clarify. Context: From Title ID Date github.io "[strcat]" 2u1dme Thu Jan 29 02:39:34 2015 UTC reddit "Daniel Micay" 2u1dme Thu Jan 29 02:39:34 2015 UTC It's exactly the same post. EDIT: This is now at 0 points. If I have missed something or misunderstand I welcome clarification. Thanks very much!
    - dkmb 8y ago
      Check the URL of the archived thread.
      - exikyut 8y ago
        Okay, I've done that. The only thing I can think of to specifically look at is the ID fragment. I see the same ID in the archived thread on reddit.com and the archived thread stored on github.io (I'm not sure which source to disambiguate "archived thread" to). My point was/is that the threads are identical, and given the different titles points to an supposedly-impossible ability to change thread titles. This is very interesting to me. In case I'm [still] missing the point you're trying to get at. Further clarification and patience is appreciated.
        rcxdude 8y ago
        he explained the point. The archived copy has been redacted, the whole reason the archive exists (and the original deleted) is because its impossible to redact the information on reddit while leaving the rest of the post intact.

staticassertion 8y ago

What are you trying to imply? This seems entirely unrelated.

surrealize 8y ago
It's another example of Daniel Micay (strcat) contributing technically to something, having a falling out with other folks involved with it, then quitting in a huff.
- staticassertion 8y ago
  I think that's a really overly simplistic view of the Rust situation and an unnecessary comment on the current situation. Daniel did not 'quit in a huff' or even quit at all. This belittles his contributions and the situation he's been put in.
  - surrealize 8y ago
    I saw how badly he treated people in the rust community, so I have zero doubt that his problems dealing with people played a role in the current situation. Didn't intend to belittle his contributions though; he contributed significantly to rust and (as I understand it) did ~everything technically on CopperheadOS.
    - axlprose 8y ago
      This is an extremely disingenuous interpretation of events, and seems to be given for no other purpose than to shame the clear victim of an abusive business partner. This has nothing to do with how he worked with rust developers, and even Graydon made it clear in that thread that strcat was always justified in his interactions with them. It is extremely dishonest to spin this around and use it to suggest such a ridiculous level of dishonesty.
      - tomjakubowski 8y ago
        > This has nothing to do with how he worked with rust developers, and even Graydon made it clear in that thread that strcat was always justified in his interactions with them. No, Graydon really said nothing of the sort. https://slash-r-slash-rust.github.io/archived/2u1dme.html#co4uurq https://slash-r-slash-rust.github.io/archived/2u1dme.html#co... "[strcat] is an outstanding technical voice, everyone knows that. He is also an uncompromising technical voice who quickly becomes defensive, critical, sarcastic, belittling, insulting and accusatory when his (often correct) views are not acted-upon by others quickly enough or to his satisfaction. He needs to work on his communication style. He's stepped way over the line of the CoC repeatedly, and if I were still in a leadership role, I probably would have had to ask him to leave by now. It pains me to say that."