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How do you explain these numbers? http://www.h1bdata.info/index.php?em=&job=Senior+Software+Engineer&city=&year=2018 http://www.h1bdata.info/index.php?em=&job=
by gregcrv 8y ago
How do you explain these numbers?
http://www.h1bdata.info/index.php?em=&job=Senior+Software+Engineer&city=&year=2018 http://www.h1bdata.info/index.php?em=&job=Senior+Software+En...
- kentonv 8y agoThose are not Google and not Silicon Valley. Try: http://www.h1bdata.info/index.php?em=Google&job=Staff+Software+Engineer&city=MOUNTAIN+VIEW&year=2018 http://www.h1bdata.info/index.php?em=Google&job=Staff+Softwa... And keep in mind that base salary (what's reported on that page) is usually about half of total compensation. (Bonus and stock being the other half.) Also this appears to be the H1B database. I'm not sure how H1B salaries compare to the overall average.
- dunpeal 8y ago> I'm not sure how H1B salaries compare to the overall average. H1B salaries are typically lower than average. Why do you think companies spend millions lobbying for more H1Bs? To pay them more than average? :-) Also, keep in mind Google only has to disclose base salaries for these H1Bs. For a staff engineer, most of the total comp would be in bonus pay and especially RSUs. They can easily be making $400k or more through those means.
- methyl 8y ago> To pay them more than average? No, to get a bigger talent pool.
- delroth 8y agoDo you have evidence that people coming on an H1B visa get paid less than their non-H1B coworkers (at same level / same seniority / same office) at Google?
- alehul 8y agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13579226 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13579226 is one example. In addition to the article, HN is in near-unanimous agreement on this issue from the contribution of many H1B visa holders. I've seen it pop up many times.
- phamilton 8y agoI would suggest that while new hires of H1B might not get paid less, the market dynamics of not having as many alternatives would invariably lead to less valuable retention efforts by the employer. i.e. fewer raises, fewer promotions, smaller bonuses, etc. As I understand it, H1Bs aren't too bad (transferability is a thing here), but other forms of visas are brutal in this regard.
- cobookman 8y agoH1b data doesn't include rsu or bonus. Many are getting 16-17% bonus and ~50-150k/year in rsu.
- dunpeal 8y agoFor a staff engineer, I'd say even $150k is very low. Even for an H1B, I'd guess $200k/year at least in additional pay beyond the base salary.