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First look at Tesla Model S using George Hotz’s semi-autonomous driving tech

35 points by evo_9 8y ago

josefresco 8y ago
Most important question: Does it auto-steer you into a stationary highway barrier at 70 MPH?
- iancarroll 8y ago
  This system has no way to detect obstacles (not even radar.) So probably at some point.
  - rasz 8y ago
    Doesnt it use vision on camera feed? should be enough.
    - boznz 8y ago
      Vision Works well for mark 1 eyeballs
stephengillie 8y ago
Article links to Github: https://github.com/commaai/openpilot https://github.com/commaai/openpilot > Currently it performs the functions of Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC) and Lane Keeping Assist System (LKAS) for Hondas, Acuras and Toyotas. It's about on par with Tesla Autopilot at launch... > Right now openpilot supports the EON Dashcam DevKit. We'd like to support other platforms as well. Video [0] shows the driver holding the wheel pretty often, but not around a highway curve. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRkz7FuJsA8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRkz7FuJsA8
commaai 8y ago
comma.ai here, happy to answer any questions. The open source driving software is here: https://github.com/commaai/openpilot https://github.com/commaai/openpilot We have a slack also if you are interested in this project: https://slack.comma.ai https://slack.comma.ai
- stephengillie 8y ago
  Have you tested this on the infamous stretch of California highway?
- notlob 8y ago
  What sort of E&O coverage is needed on projects like this?
- falcon620 8y ago
  How do you sleep at night? You do realize that you are just re-implementing 10-15 year old tech without the quality control, well-defined limitations and user experience research that made these driver assists actually work? And then top of of that, you're calling your amateur-hour driving assists "a self-driving car". How the hell do any of you even have have a driver's license, still?
  - dang 8y ago
    We've banned this account for repeatedly violating the HN guidelines. Would you please stop creating accounts to do this with? https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - rohit2412 8y ago
    Just wanted to add that same could be said of Tesla, who go even further with their marketing on coast to coast autonomous drives, cross country summons, and driverless taxis.
    - falcon620 8y ago
      You're banned!
dogma1138 8y ago
This is a bit frightening while I admire the effort I would not want any cars with a hacked self driving capability on the road and I would fully support full enforcement of this restriction. The concept of level 3 in a multi-agent open environment is flawed as it is and this to me just spells more trouble than the already potentially flawed and provenly limited manufacturer integrated L3 systems out there. Sorry but taking this on the road without a permit and without precautions like leading and following vehicles that box you in to prevent non participating agents form being in close proximity to you is nothing short of reckless endangerment.

35 points by evo_9 8y ago

josefresco 8y ago

Most important question: Does it auto-steer you into a stationary highway barrier at 70 MPH?

iancarroll 8y ago
This system has no way to detect obstacles (not even radar.) So probably at some point.
- rasz 8y ago
  Doesnt it use vision on camera feed? should be enough.
  - boznz 8y ago
    Vision Works well for mark 1 eyeballs

stephengillie 8y ago

Article links to Github: https://github.com/commaai/openpilot https://github.com/commaai/openpilot > Currently it performs the functions of Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC) and Lane Keeping Assist System (LKAS) for Hondas, Acuras and Toyotas. It's about on par with Tesla Autopilot at launch... > Right now openpilot supports the EON Dashcam DevKit. We'd like to support other platforms as well. Video [0] shows the driver holding the wheel pretty often, but not around a highway curve. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRkz7FuJsA8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRkz7FuJsA8

commaai 8y ago

comma.ai here, happy to answer any questions. The open source driving software is here: https://github.com/commaai/openpilot https://github.com/commaai/openpilot We have a slack also if you are interested in this project: https://slack.comma.ai https://slack.comma.ai

stephengillie 8y ago
Have you tested this on the infamous stretch of California highway?
notlob 8y ago
What sort of E&O coverage is needed on projects like this?
falcon620 8y ago
How do you sleep at night? You do realize that you are just re-implementing 10-15 year old tech without the quality control, well-defined limitations and user experience research that made these driver assists actually work? And then top of of that, you're calling your amateur-hour driving assists "a self-driving car". How the hell do any of you even have have a driver's license, still?
- dang 8y ago
  We've banned this account for repeatedly violating the HN guidelines. Would you please stop creating accounts to do this with? https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- rohit2412 8y ago
  Just wanted to add that same could be said of Tesla, who go even further with their marketing on coast to coast autonomous drives, cross country summons, and driverless taxis.
  - falcon620 8y ago
    You're banned!

dogma1138 8y ago

This is a bit frightening while I admire the effort I would not want any cars with a hacked self driving capability on the road and I would fully support full enforcement of this restriction. The concept of level 3 in a multi-agent open environment is flawed as it is and this to me just spells more trouble than the already potentially flawed and provenly limited manufacturer integrated L3 systems out there. Sorry but taking this on the road without a permit and without precautions like leading and following vehicles that box you in to prevent non participating agents form being in close proximity to you is nothing short of reckless endangerment.