"Pushing information about your product" is only marketing to the extent that advertising is marketing. "The activities required by a producer to sell his produ

"Pushing information about your product" is only marketing to the extent that advertising is marketing. "The activities required by a producer to sell his products," includes a lot of stuff that isn't pushy at all. That's exactly what I'm talking about. You think you're describing marketing, but you're actually describing only advertising. For example, Hacker News is absolutely a marketing vehicle for Y Combinator. Would you say that they "intrusively steal people's limited time and attention to force my manipulative product spam right into their faces"? You choose to come here, and in doing so, it elevates the brand of Y Combinator in your mind and in the world.