> The amount of stuff systemd is doing for you is insane. Runit and daemontools also do this. > Boot time is way better with systemd. Yes. The system boots i

> The amount of stuff systemd is doing for you is insane. Runit and daemontools also do this. > Boot time is way better with systemd. Yes. The system boots in under one second and will sometimes fail to start services because some package maintainer failed to make it's unit file dependent on another service or because it starts services in unpredictable order which makes interactins between them cause problems. > The people who made the fork are just a bunch of hissy kids or stuck in stone age who are lazy to learn a new system IMO These people were so annoyed by systemd being used by default in Debian, that they started an alternative distribution that does not use it. I'd say the effort of doing and maintaining another distribution is several orders of magnitude greater than learning how to use systemd. So it's anything but laziness.