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I thought it was strange bing was not mentioned, even though it has Mozilla's endorsement of having a better privacy policy than Google[0] and is probably the m
by lev99 8y ago
I thought it was strange bing was not mentioned, even though it has Mozilla's endorsement of having a better privacy policy than Google[0] and is probably the most popular alternative to search in the United States. This far from a complete list of Google alternatives.
[0]https://www.pcworld.com/article/184520/mozilla_endorses_bing_over_google_privacy_issues.html https://www.pcworld.com/article/184520/mozilla_endorses_bing...
- miguelrochefort 8y agoAs much as I like Microsoft, Bing is awful. Ive used it, and I tried to like it. It can't find anything.
- mtgx 8y agoIt was also disappointing to hear recently one of their developers say that they mostly just copy what Google is doing to keep up.
- lev99 8y agoI find bing to be better than any other Google alternatives.
- auslander 8y agoagree
- Godel_unicode 8y agoIt would be possible for you and your parent comment to be correct simultaneously.
- astronautjones 8y agoBing's video search (particularly for porn) is the best in the business.
- beagle3 8y agoThat’s likely on purpose now, even if it was accidental in the beginning. Microsoft marketing people are not stupid, and they know the right amount of piracy and the right amount of porn is excellent marketing.
- mc32 8y agoIts image search is also pretty good. If I'm not successful on a google image search, bing usually comes up with quality images. Their maps also tend to better render local businesses and it's easier to navigate the results than google, surprisingly. On the other hand technical searches are way better on google.
- darpa_escapee 8y ago> (particularly for porn) I had not considered Bing a serious competitor to Google's search engine until now.
- alsetmusic 8y ago>> (particularly for porn) > I had not considered Bing a serious competitor to Google's search engine until now. I can’t tell how much humor was intended here, but that’s a serious competitive point that had not occurred to me. Ever. It’s not something that MS could use in a marketing campaign, but could easily sway lots of people to give it a try when they otherwise wouldn’t.
- lev99 8y agoI'm not sure if it was implemented as a 'competitive point' or if Microsoft just has employees that solved the porn search problem for personal use.
- DoreenMichele 8y agoI use Bing a fair amount and I like it. I'm wondering if you could elaborate on what sorts of things you are trying to find and having trouble with. Perhaps HN could make a few suggestions for how to get more out of your Bing experience.
- giancarlostoro 8y agoI've tried switching to it but for looking up code and projects it kinda sucks. Even when I throw hints at it sometimes it just doesn't seem to care. I'm using DuckDuckGo instead for now.
- cm2187 8y agoIt’s a matter of taste but I prefer the Apple/google clean and white UI with little else distraction than what you are trying to achieve over Microsoft’s “portal from the 90’s/let’s fill every bit of space”. Whether it’s bing or Windows, something as stupid as showing you a different background picture every time means you always have to deal with a new visual, which means more effort to find your way. It’s the same for IE and edge, the default new tab is to show you a busy page with news, weather forecast, most visited stuff. That’s like advertising banners to me.
- nothrabannosir 8y agoI’m surprised to learn an it professional regularly finds their way to a search engine home page. I would assume you’d just type your query directly into the address bar? This seems to work for every major browser at least, unless I’m mistaking? I actually use Bing, and I see the oddity that is their homepage once a month, if that. (And I think bing is fine for about 80% of searches. The rest I use google, which manages for another 10%, and for the remaining tithe I have to do something archaic like think about how to properly format a search query. Party like it’s 1999.)
- skinnymuch 8y agoWhy are you going to Bing’s homepage? The rest of the site is minimalist.
- ocdtrekkie 8y agoI like/sometimes use Bing, and it's decent, but it's not significantly different than Google in terms of data collection. The biggest difference, arguably, is that they pay you for it via Bing Rewards. DuckDuckGo uses Bing data and respects your privacy more, and probably the best choice for the privacy-conscious.
- lev99 8y agoMy primary goal of using Google alternatives is to deprive Alphabet of revenue. Privacy benefits are secondary.
- smichel17 8y agoWhy do you want to deprive Alphabet of revenue, if not for their privacy-disrespecting business model?
- zdkl 8y agoRead a cyberpunk book. The mega-corp as focal point for resources, innovation and political clout is a scary thought. Consider the almost exclusive dataset they have moated "everyone" else out of, and the long line of disingenuous/unethical business practices. The privacy considerations are the proverbial top of the iceberg.
- icebraining 8y agoUsing Microsoft products to avoid feeding megacorps would be a strange strategy.
- syshum 8y agoMost of the fictional dystopia center around a single mega-corp not mega-corps... Thus if you have 3 or 4 Mega Corps that would be preferred to a single monopolistic Mega-Corp.
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- mtgx 8y agoThat was in 2009 - Windows 10 probably wasn't even a project at that point, for instance. I doubt Mozilla would recommend Bing over Google again because it's more "pro-privacy."
- cm2187 8y agoI think the point is not so much pro vs anti privacy. On the web you have to assume every site is anti privacy, and you may have some rare pleasant surprises. To me the point is rather to spread that trail of data among multiple providers that are not known to sync their data.