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How about you don’t sign up for Facebook if you don’t want them to know anything about you? I don’t really see the point of this deception.

MereInterest 8y ago
Because facebook tracks you, even if you do not have a facebook account. https://www.theverge.com/2018/4/11/17225482/facebook-shadow-profiles-zuckerberg-congress-data-privacy https://www.theverge.com/2018/4/11/17225482/facebook-shadow-...
- JumpCrisscross 8y ago
  The problem is laziness. “Call your Congressperson” is hard. Waxing lyrical about political distinction is easy. Imagining technical solutions to political problems is easier.
  - MereInterest 8y ago
    I'd say that there are two related problems, one political and one technical, and that there is no reason not to address both issues. * Political problem: It is legal and acceptable to track people on the internet to an extreme degree. Political solution: Call your Congressperson, donate to the EFF, reframe the issue as corporate stalking, etc. * Technical problem: It is possible to track people on the internet to an extreme degree. Technical solution: Restrict ability to collect data by using adblock, poison existing databases with reasonable but false data.
- dominotw 8y ago
  is it possible to block facebook domain via hosts file or chrome extension?
  - itronitron 8y ago
    https://qz.com/1234502/how-to-block-facebook-all-the-urls-you-need-to-block-to-actually-stop-using-facebook/ https://qz.com/1234502/how-to-block-facebook-all-the-urls-yo... and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11791052 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11791052
- mortehu 8y ago
  Because the word "tracking" can include request monitoring for DDoS mitigation and scraping detection, or storing information purposefully uploaded by other people (e.g. photos and contact list), saying anything about "tracking" isn't very meaningful. Think of how many people are being involuntarily "tracked" by Dropbox because others are backing up photos in which they appear, or emails they sent, without their consent. For better headlines, we could call this information "Dropbox Shadow Dossiers".
sacado2 8y ago
Most of your friends, family, coworkers, etc. have your e-mail or your phone number (or both). Some (most) of them use facebook, and a significative portion of them share those information with facebook, so even if you never subscribe to the service, they know a few things about you (your name, phone number, e-mail address and some of your acquaintances), and they know they don't know anything else about you (which is some sort of information too).

MereInterest 8y ago

Because facebook tracks you, even if you do not have a facebook account. https://www.theverge.com/2018/4/11/17225482/facebook-shadow-profiles-zuckerberg-congress-data-privacy https://www.theverge.com/2018/4/11/17225482/facebook-shadow-...

JumpCrisscross 8y ago
The problem is laziness. “Call your Congressperson” is hard. Waxing lyrical about political distinction is easy. Imagining technical solutions to political problems is easier.
- MereInterest 8y ago
  I'd say that there are two related problems, one political and one technical, and that there is no reason not to address both issues. * Political problem: It is legal and acceptable to track people on the internet to an extreme degree. Political solution: Call your Congressperson, donate to the EFF, reframe the issue as corporate stalking, etc. * Technical problem: It is possible to track people on the internet to an extreme degree. Technical solution: Restrict ability to collect data by using adblock, poison existing databases with reasonable but false data.
dominotw 8y ago
is it possible to block facebook domain via hosts file or chrome extension?
- itronitron 8y ago
  https://qz.com/1234502/how-to-block-facebook-all-the-urls-you-need-to-block-to-actually-stop-using-facebook/ https://qz.com/1234502/how-to-block-facebook-all-the-urls-yo... and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11791052 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11791052
mortehu 8y ago
Because the word "tracking" can include request monitoring for DDoS mitigation and scraping detection, or storing information purposefully uploaded by other people (e.g. photos and contact list), saying anything about "tracking" isn't very meaningful. Think of how many people are being involuntarily "tracked" by Dropbox because others are backing up photos in which they appear, or emails they sent, without their consent. For better headlines, we could call this information "Dropbox Shadow Dossiers".

sacado2 8y ago

Most of your friends, family, coworkers, etc. have your e-mail or your phone number (or both). Some (most) of them use facebook, and a significative portion of them share those information with facebook, so even if you never subscribe to the service, they know a few things about you (your name, phone number, e-mail address and some of your acquaintances), and they know they don't know anything else about you (which is some sort of information too).