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It'd be great if there was a service that you could sign up for, which would "deceive" Facebook, Twitter, and other social media websites by producing false inf

It'd be great if there was a service that you could sign up for, which would "deceive" Facebook, Twitter, and other social media websites by producing false information about you. For example, if I don't want FB to know what movies I'm interested in, how about liking "random" movie pages on FB? If I don't want FB to know about my political orientations, how about run with the hare and hunt with the hounds?

theapemachine 8y ago
It seems unlikely that this would be 100% effective though. I am pretty sure that companies like this use data from your immediate social sphere as well to make pretty relevant assumptions about you. For instance, when I buy a product, certain others of my friends will see this same product promoted to them. My friend once looked something up on Facebook, while we were in the movie theater (before the movie started ;)) and sure enough I was getting the ads for that same event as soon as I got home and looked at my phone. Of course, on a more massive scale, this could theoretically work.
JetSpiegel 8y ago
AdNauseum[1] is that "service", but Google blocked it from the Chorome Add On Store for obvious reasons. [1]: https://adnauseam.io/ https://adnauseam.io/
- Deinos 8y ago
  One of the many reasons I switched over to Firefox. Additionally, AdNauseum is an amazing product name.
  - aportnoy 8y ago
    *AdNauseam
  - bhnmmhmd 8y ago
    Another reason: Stylus (FF-only) vs. Stylish (which works on both FF and Chrome, but collects your data).
baxtr 8y ago
I actually had the strategy on fb to just like very random stuff like movies, groups etc. I’m not sure whether it has helped but it makes me feel better
- kinsomo 8y ago
  > I actually had the strategy on fb to just like very random stuff like movies, groups etc. I’m not sure whether it has helped but it makes me feel better I've done similar, and afterwards nearly all advertising categorizations of me eventually dropped off my profile (after a period where they were schizophrenic and contradictory). I can't be certain I caused that, because this was contemporaneous with Zuck's congressional testimony and the run up to the GDPR (both of which probably motivated many changes). But it would make sense that mountains of bad data would make it hard for them to confidently place me in advertising demographic and interest categories, do to all the contradictions.
startupdiscuss 8y ago
Could you just give fake info? Or else use multiple fake profiles? I don't know how you an deceive Facebook without also deceiving your friends and contacts though.
- SiempreViernes 8y ago
  Does the api support creating old posts and back dating them? FB is really good at hiding old activity and being utterly worthless at searching your feed, so if you can just put all the fake stuff in the past you'd be fine with your real friends.
  - kinsomo 8y ago
    > Does the api support creating old posts and back dating them? > FB is really good at hiding old activity and being utterly worthless at searching your feed, so if you can just put all the fake stuff in the past you'd be fine with your real friends. They allow you to back date, but if you're goal is to avoid annoying your friends, you could use the privacy settings for a similar effect. Just post your garbage as visible to "only me," let it age for a week or two until the algorithm will ignore it, then make it "public," "friends only," or whatever you want.
jacquesm 8y ago
Not a happy answer but such a service would raise the noise floor but would otherwise not have much of an effect unless it was massively adopted to the point that the original signal was insignificant compared to the noise.
- mlthoughts2018 8y ago
  Even then it’s questionable if it would be effective. Over time even a faint behavioral signature will become transparent, because things that deviate from the true behavioral signature do so in random ways, which could essentially “cancel” out if your model for quantifying behavioral characteristics is well-specified. Meanwhile the “true” behaviors would “add” over time. It would become like any other signal jamming arms race, whether it’s radar or social behaviors, and your model of generating random noise has to get more sophisticated as the other party’s anti-jamming techniques get more sophisticated. I took a class with Scott Aaronson once where he mentioned the idea that the natural enemy of machine learning is cryptography. So if you know the anti-jammers are using ever greater machine learning techniques, rather than trying to one-up them with adversarial learning, I suspect the best jamming would be cryptography. Like, extensions to Facebook that essential encode text with PGP or something, send via Messenger, and allow decoding on the other side. Then an interesting idea for machine learning would be how to make an autoencoder that accepts encrypted text, transforms it into human understandable text that would fool a machine learning algorithm designed to flag encrypted text, and can decode from natural language back to the encrypted data on the other end.
  - gwern 8y ago
    > I took a class with Scott Aaronson once where he mentioned the idea that the natural enemy of machine learning is cryptography. He cites Rivest for that one: https://people.csail.mit.edu/rivest/pubs/Riv91.pdf https://people.csail.mit.edu/rivest/pubs/Riv91.pdf
delbel 8y ago
I suggested this to an EFF lawyer at Defcon and they hated the idea. Perhaps I worded it wrong, it makes sense to me. Signal to noise ratio. You should have a legal right to submit false information if you feel a service might harm you at some point.
- kbrackbill 8y ago
  Interesting, what did they hate about it?
  - ice_nine 8y ago
    Not OP but if I had to guess, once you have a 'legal right' to submit false information it paves the way for a lot of unwanted behavior and would help the spread of disinformation. If a service is harming you and you're thinking about ways to legally address the issue, why not just go after the service itself and come up with legal repercussions / regulations for their actions? Your question led me to this NPR article that briefly talks about the legality of lying on the Internet that's worth mentioning (https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2011/11/15/142356399/is-lying-on-the-internet-illegal https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2011/11/15/142356399...). It seems that when you agree to the Terms of Service with services like Facebook, you agree to not spread misinformation or misrepresent yourself (https://www.facebook.com/communitystandards/integrity_authenticity/ https://www.facebook.com/communitystandards/integrity_authen...).
    - itronitron 8y ago
      In my opinion, it isn't even information in the first place, so it can't be categorized into true or false information buckets. There are way too many conclusions being drawn from the stuff that gets tossed through the digital ether.
- hellbanner 8y ago
  Apple could file a patent infringement suit if you tried to automate it. https://www.digitaltrends.com/apple/apple-gets-privacy-protecting-data-pollution-patent/ https://www.digitaltrends.com/apple/apple-gets-privacy-prote...
nihonde 8y ago
This is very much the same foundation of disinformation campaigns like strongarm regime propaganda or what is currently termed “fake news”. By attacking credibility itself, anything and nothing are equally valid. The problem with poisoning the well of your own personal data is that it also makes it easier to indict you on false pretenses.
- dman 8y ago
  I guess if enough number of people do it, it removes the ability to indict anyone.
  - joshgel 8y ago
    Or make it so anyone can be hunted for no reason at all
- itronitron 8y ago
  indict you for what?
  - girvo 8y ago
    Whatever they decide to, I believe is the GPs point. When nothing is true, everything can be “true”
    - cinquemb 8y ago
      However, if people are already doing something that is deemed illegal or not allowed by any given jurisdiction/site, making the pool of people to theoretically go after/ban order of magnitude(s) larger seems ideal.
spunker540 8y ago
How about you don’t sign up for Facebook if you don’t want them to know anything about you? I don’t really see the point of this deception.
- MereInterest 8y ago
  Because facebook tracks you, even if you do not have a facebook account. https://www.theverge.com/2018/4/11/17225482/facebook-shadow-profiles-zuckerberg-congress-data-privacy https://www.theverge.com/2018/4/11/17225482/facebook-shadow-...
  - JumpCrisscross 8y ago
    The problem is laziness. “Call your Congressperson” is hard. Waxing lyrical about political distinction is easy. Imagining technical solutions to political problems is easier.
    - MereInterest 8y ago
      I'd say that there are two related problems, one political and one technical, and that there is no reason not to address both issues. * Political problem: It is legal and acceptable to track people on the internet to an extreme degree. Political solution: Call your Congressperson, donate to the EFF, reframe the issue as corporate stalking, etc. * Technical problem: It is possible to track people on the internet to an extreme degree. Technical solution: Restrict ability to collect data by using adblock, poison existing databases with reasonable but false data.
  - dominotw 8y ago
    is it possible to block facebook domain via hosts file or chrome extension?
    - itronitron 8y ago
      https://qz.com/1234502/how-to-block-facebook-all-the-urls-you-need-to-block-to-actually-stop-using-facebook/ https://qz.com/1234502/how-to-block-facebook-all-the-urls-yo... and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11791052 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11791052
hellbanner 8y ago
Ask Apple. https://www.digitaltrends.com/apple/apple-gets-privacy-protecting-data-pollution-patent/ https://www.digitaltrends.com/apple/apple-gets-privacy-prote...
Nicholas7900 8y ago
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lozaning 8y ago
I use this nift browser plug in: https://noiszy.com/ https://noiszy.com/ "It visits and navigates around websites, from within your browser, leaving misleading digital footprints around the internet. Noiszy only visits a list of sites that you approve, and only works when you turn it on. Run Noiszy in the background while you're working, or start Noiszy when you're not using your browser, and it sends meaningless data to these sites for as long as you let it run."
itronitron 8y ago
In order to wash out the signal, all the service would need to do is 'like everything'. In addition to masking your interests it would also grind their algorithms to a halt if enough people did that. A lot of these algorithms gain performance due to the sparsity of the data, so if everything became connected it would negatively impact the performance of their algorithms. Anyone know how to get, or compile, a list of everything likable on Facebook?
- lwansbrough 8y ago
  Facebook uses an enumerable ID for everything public, so to get a list you just have to enumerate their public pages.
- pferde 8y ago
  Until you get into problems (legal or personal, doesn't matter) for "liking" stuff related to child porn, terrorist propaganda or, I don't know, scientology, without even knowing about it, because it was done on your behalf by this "like automaton".
  - sacado2 8y ago
    Exactly. In France people have been convicted because they "liked" illegal opinions. As if the fact that such a thing as an illegal opinion exists was not enough of a problem, it's been decided by justice that the semantic of a "like" was "I make this opinion mine".
    - pferde 8y ago
      Can you please share some links on this? All I could find was a similar case in Thailand: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/dec/10/thai-man-arrested-facebook-like-photo-king https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/dec/10/thai-man-arres...
      - sacado2 8y ago
        I found that, but this is in French, obviously: http://www.leparisien.fr/rozay-en-brie-77540/rozay-en-brie-condamne-pour-avoir-like-une-photo-de-daesh-22-08-2017-7206846.php http://www.leparisien.fr/rozay-en-brie-77540/rozay-en-brie-c... My own (approximate) translation of parts of the text: "Sur Facebook, le trentenaire avait apposé un «J’aime» sur une image d’un combattant de Daesh brandissant la tête décapitée d’une femme. Il a été condamné à trois mois de prison avec sursis." --> "On Facebook, the man in his thirties had clicked "like" on a picture of an ISIS fighter holding the head of a beheaded woman. He was given a 3-month suspended prison sentence". "«Quand on met J’aime, c’est que l’on considère que ce n’est pas choquant ou que l’on adhère», considère pour sa part Jean-Baptiste Bougerol, le substitut du procureur de la République." --> ""When you click "like" on something, you consider it's not shocking or you agree with it"", said the prosecutor".
ButterflyWar 8y ago
This is called Butterfly War http://cultstate.com/2017/10/13/The-Butterfly-War/ http://cultstate.com/2017/10/13/The-Butterfly-War/
poulsbohemian 8y ago
What's funny is how bad most of these services are at identifying people. They seem to think I'm a southeast Asian female (white dude here) because I happen to read a particular article, buy a particular item (probably as a gift), etc. Turn on, tune in, drop out...
lurquer 8y ago
In the late 90s-early 00s, at a corporate job, several of us used a script to have the browser load a random page every few minutes. (I didn't write the script... I think the pages were just random links from search results based on random words.) Anyway, the thousands of pages loaded masked the NSFW pages. We figured we'd have plausible deniability. "You say I visited Xxx.com? I don't know... I think my computer has a virus or something. It's always loading up random stuff. Let me see the log... Yep... Just as I thought... It says I visited 24,239 pages on Tuesday. Heck, that's not even possible!"

theapemachine 8y ago

It seems unlikely that this would be 100% effective though. I am pretty sure that companies like this use data from your immediate social sphere as well to make pretty relevant assumptions about you. For instance, when I buy a product, certain others of my friends will see this same product promoted to them. My friend once looked something up on Facebook, while we were in the movie theater (before the movie started ;)) and sure enough I was getting the ads for that same event as soon as I got home and looked at my phone. Of course, on a more massive scale, this could theoretically work.

JetSpiegel 8y ago

AdNauseum[1] is that "service", but Google blocked it from the Chorome Add On Store for obvious reasons. [1]: https://adnauseam.io/ https://adnauseam.io/

Deinos 8y ago
One of the many reasons I switched over to Firefox. Additionally, AdNauseum is an amazing product name.
- aportnoy 8y ago
  *AdNauseam
- bhnmmhmd 8y ago
  Another reason: Stylus (FF-only) vs. Stylish (which works on both FF and Chrome, but collects your data).

baxtr 8y ago

I actually had the strategy on fb to just like very random stuff like movies, groups etc. I’m not sure whether it has helped but it makes me feel better

kinsomo 8y ago
> I actually had the strategy on fb to just like very random stuff like movies, groups etc. I’m not sure whether it has helped but it makes me feel better I've done similar, and afterwards nearly all advertising categorizations of me eventually dropped off my profile (after a period where they were schizophrenic and contradictory). I can't be certain I caused that, because this was contemporaneous with Zuck's congressional testimony and the run up to the GDPR (both of which probably motivated many changes). But it would make sense that mountains of bad data would make it hard for them to confidently place me in advertising demographic and interest categories, do to all the contradictions.

startupdiscuss 8y ago

Could you just give fake info? Or else use multiple fake profiles? I don't know how you an deceive Facebook without also deceiving your friends and contacts though.

SiempreViernes 8y ago
Does the api support creating old posts and back dating them? FB is really good at hiding old activity and being utterly worthless at searching your feed, so if you can just put all the fake stuff in the past you'd be fine with your real friends.
- kinsomo 8y ago
  > Does the api support creating old posts and back dating them? > FB is really good at hiding old activity and being utterly worthless at searching your feed, so if you can just put all the fake stuff in the past you'd be fine with your real friends. They allow you to back date, but if you're goal is to avoid annoying your friends, you could use the privacy settings for a similar effect. Just post your garbage as visible to "only me," let it age for a week or two until the algorithm will ignore it, then make it "public," "friends only," or whatever you want.

jacquesm 8y ago

Not a happy answer but such a service would raise the noise floor but would otherwise not have much of an effect unless it was massively adopted to the point that the original signal was insignificant compared to the noise.

mlthoughts2018 8y ago
Even then it’s questionable if it would be effective. Over time even a faint behavioral signature will become transparent, because things that deviate from the true behavioral signature do so in random ways, which could essentially “cancel” out if your model for quantifying behavioral characteristics is well-specified. Meanwhile the “true” behaviors would “add” over time. It would become like any other signal jamming arms race, whether it’s radar or social behaviors, and your model of generating random noise has to get more sophisticated as the other party’s anti-jamming techniques get more sophisticated. I took a class with Scott Aaronson once where he mentioned the idea that the natural enemy of machine learning is cryptography. So if you know the anti-jammers are using ever greater machine learning techniques, rather than trying to one-up them with adversarial learning, I suspect the best jamming would be cryptography. Like, extensions to Facebook that essential encode text with PGP or something, send via Messenger, and allow decoding on the other side. Then an interesting idea for machine learning would be how to make an autoencoder that accepts encrypted text, transforms it into human understandable text that would fool a machine learning algorithm designed to flag encrypted text, and can decode from natural language back to the encrypted data on the other end.
- gwern 8y ago
  > I took a class with Scott Aaronson once where he mentioned the idea that the natural enemy of machine learning is cryptography. He cites Rivest for that one: https://people.csail.mit.edu/rivest/pubs/Riv91.pdf https://people.csail.mit.edu/rivest/pubs/Riv91.pdf

delbel 8y ago

I suggested this to an EFF lawyer at Defcon and they hated the idea. Perhaps I worded it wrong, it makes sense to me. Signal to noise ratio. You should have a legal right to submit false information if you feel a service might harm you at some point.

kbrackbill 8y ago
Interesting, what did they hate about it?
- ice_nine 8y ago
  Not OP but if I had to guess, once you have a 'legal right' to submit false information it paves the way for a lot of unwanted behavior and would help the spread of disinformation. If a service is harming you and you're thinking about ways to legally address the issue, why not just go after the service itself and come up with legal repercussions / regulations for their actions? Your question led me to this NPR article that briefly talks about the legality of lying on the Internet that's worth mentioning (https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2011/11/15/142356399/is-lying-on-the-internet-illegal https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2011/11/15/142356399...). It seems that when you agree to the Terms of Service with services like Facebook, you agree to not spread misinformation or misrepresent yourself (https://www.facebook.com/communitystandards/integrity_authenticity/ https://www.facebook.com/communitystandards/integrity_authen...).
  - itronitron 8y ago
    In my opinion, it isn't even information in the first place, so it can't be categorized into true or false information buckets. There are way too many conclusions being drawn from the stuff that gets tossed through the digital ether.
hellbanner 8y ago
Apple could file a patent infringement suit if you tried to automate it. https://www.digitaltrends.com/apple/apple-gets-privacy-protecting-data-pollution-patent/ https://www.digitaltrends.com/apple/apple-gets-privacy-prote...

nihonde 8y ago

This is very much the same foundation of disinformation campaigns like strongarm regime propaganda or what is currently termed “fake news”. By attacking credibility itself, anything and nothing are equally valid. The problem with poisoning the well of your own personal data is that it also makes it easier to indict you on false pretenses.

dman 8y ago
I guess if enough number of people do it, it removes the ability to indict anyone.
- joshgel 8y ago
  Or make it so anyone can be hunted for no reason at all
itronitron 8y ago
indict you for what?
- girvo 8y ago
  Whatever they decide to, I believe is the GPs point. When nothing is true, everything can be “true”
  - cinquemb 8y ago
    However, if people are already doing something that is deemed illegal or not allowed by any given jurisdiction/site, making the pool of people to theoretically go after/ban order of magnitude(s) larger seems ideal.

spunker540 8y ago

How about you don’t sign up for Facebook if you don’t want them to know anything about you? I don’t really see the point of this deception.

MereInterest 8y ago
Because facebook tracks you, even if you do not have a facebook account. https://www.theverge.com/2018/4/11/17225482/facebook-shadow-profiles-zuckerberg-congress-data-privacy https://www.theverge.com/2018/4/11/17225482/facebook-shadow-...
- JumpCrisscross 8y ago
  The problem is laziness. “Call your Congressperson” is hard. Waxing lyrical about political distinction is easy. Imagining technical solutions to political problems is easier.
  - MereInterest 8y ago
    I'd say that there are two related problems, one political and one technical, and that there is no reason not to address both issues. * Political problem: It is legal and acceptable to track people on the internet to an extreme degree. Political solution: Call your Congressperson, donate to the EFF, reframe the issue as corporate stalking, etc. * Technical problem: It is possible to track people on the internet to an extreme degree. Technical solution: Restrict ability to collect data by using adblock, poison existing databases with reasonable but false data.
- dominotw 8y ago
  is it possible to block facebook domain via hosts file or chrome extension?
  - itronitron 8y ago
    https://qz.com/1234502/how-to-block-facebook-all-the-urls-you-need-to-block-to-actually-stop-using-facebook/ https://qz.com/1234502/how-to-block-facebook-all-the-urls-yo... and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11791052 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11791052

hellbanner 8y ago

Ask Apple. https://www.digitaltrends.com/apple/apple-gets-privacy-protecting-data-pollution-patent/ https://www.digitaltrends.com/apple/apple-gets-privacy-prote...

Nicholas7900 8y ago

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lozaning 8y ago

I use this nift browser plug in: https://noiszy.com/ https://noiszy.com/ "It visits and navigates around websites, from within your browser, leaving misleading digital footprints around the internet. Noiszy only visits a list of sites that you approve, and only works when you turn it on. Run Noiszy in the background while you're working, or start Noiszy when you're not using your browser, and it sends meaningless data to these sites for as long as you let it run."

itronitron 8y ago

In order to wash out the signal, all the service would need to do is 'like everything'. In addition to masking your interests it would also grind their algorithms to a halt if enough people did that. A lot of these algorithms gain performance due to the sparsity of the data, so if everything became connected it would negatively impact the performance of their algorithms. Anyone know how to get, or compile, a list of everything likable on Facebook?

lwansbrough 8y ago
Facebook uses an enumerable ID for everything public, so to get a list you just have to enumerate their public pages.
pferde 8y ago
Until you get into problems (legal or personal, doesn't matter) for "liking" stuff related to child porn, terrorist propaganda or, I don't know, scientology, without even knowing about it, because it was done on your behalf by this "like automaton".
- sacado2 8y ago
  Exactly. In France people have been convicted because they "liked" illegal opinions. As if the fact that such a thing as an illegal opinion exists was not enough of a problem, it's been decided by justice that the semantic of a "like" was "I make this opinion mine".
  - pferde 8y ago
    Can you please share some links on this? All I could find was a similar case in Thailand: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/dec/10/thai-man-arrested-facebook-like-photo-king https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/dec/10/thai-man-arres...
    - sacado2 8y ago
      I found that, but this is in French, obviously: http://www.leparisien.fr/rozay-en-brie-77540/rozay-en-brie-condamne-pour-avoir-like-une-photo-de-daesh-22-08-2017-7206846.php http://www.leparisien.fr/rozay-en-brie-77540/rozay-en-brie-c... My own (approximate) translation of parts of the text: "Sur Facebook, le trentenaire avait apposé un «J’aime» sur une image d’un combattant de Daesh brandissant la tête décapitée d’une femme. Il a été condamné à trois mois de prison avec sursis." --> "On Facebook, the man in his thirties had clicked "like" on a picture of an ISIS fighter holding the head of a beheaded woman. He was given a 3-month suspended prison sentence". "«Quand on met J’aime, c’est que l’on considère que ce n’est pas choquant ou que l’on adhère», considère pour sa part Jean-Baptiste Bougerol, le substitut du procureur de la République." --> ""When you click "like" on something, you consider it's not shocking or you agree with it"", said the prosecutor".

ButterflyWar 8y ago

This is called Butterfly War http://cultstate.com/2017/10/13/The-Butterfly-War/ http://cultstate.com/2017/10/13/The-Butterfly-War/

poulsbohemian 8y ago

What's funny is how bad most of these services are at identifying people. They seem to think I'm a southeast Asian female (white dude here) because I happen to read a particular article, buy a particular item (probably as a gift), etc. Turn on, tune in, drop out...

lurquer 8y ago

In the late 90s-early 00s, at a corporate job, several of us used a script to have the browser load a random page every few minutes. (I didn't write the script... I think the pages were just random links from search results based on random words.) Anyway, the thousands of pages loaded masked the NSFW pages. We figured we'd have plausible deniability. "You say I visited Xxx.com? I don't know... I think my computer has a virus or something. It's always loading up random stuff. Let me see the log... Yep... Just as I thought... It says I visited 24,239 pages on Tuesday. Heck, that's not even possible!"