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If the US has this, can you imagine what the Chinese database has? It’s very probable that the Chinese have a database on every person in the world. Everything

If the US has this, can you imagine what the Chinese database has? It’s very probable that the Chinese have a database on every person in the world. Everything you ever posted, and who knows what else, all sitting on some server, lying in wait. It wouldn’t take much more than an Oracle DB on a single Dell server. The purpose of this would be something akin to the Soviet “sexpionage” of the 60’s and the 70’s. It’s incredible blackmail material. It doesn’t need to be used now, but as people grow older and move up the ranks of organizations, all of the naked photos that were swiped from their iCloud account 17 years before can prove incredibly damaging. EDIT: Singled out China as an example, but should have said most governments.

LMYahooTFY 8y ago
I agree with you, except in your singling out of China. Can you point to anything in China and say with reasonable confidence that it's not happening elsewhere?
- mcny 8y ago
  I want to say not with the same brazenness, if that's a word. https://mobile.twitter.com/gaoyu200812/status/996333062882344961 https://mobile.twitter.com/gaoyu200812/status/99633306288234... However, I know this isn't true. Just watched a documentary by Al Jazeera about sheriffs in the US who are in charge of running county jails. This is why we need to protect the rights of whistleblowers. The funny thing is that here in the US we have somehow placated must people into thinking they're a-ok if they're white. In hindsight, this is the main coup of the civil war and how the South actually won the civil war even after losing the war. Just reframe the question and make it about whites versus blacks. My favorite story is a young white woman who moved to Overland Park, Kansas is greeted by her full legal name by a neighbor who works for the police. The most likely way he knew her middle name was through a search on their database (afair, she said she usually omitted her middle name). It sounds like nothing but this is a demonstration of power and that he's watching her. We know all we need to know from the Stanford prison experiments. The guards in the experiment didn't just act rude based on race. I think more people need to be aware that this isn't about the color of someone's skin. This will be a very rude awakening for a lot of people when they get caught up.
eksemplar 8y ago
The Snowden leaks showed us that the US already have everything you just described. I’m sure China, Russia and others have it as well, but right now, as you’re browsing HN on the toilet, a NSA agent could be watching you in real time through the camera on your phone.
- EGreg 8y ago
  They could know exactly where you are in the house and read every one of your files through back doors. They have all your private keys and sign anything as you and then incriminate you using it.
  - acjohnson55 8y ago
    I think people are so naive to think that crypto keeps them secure.
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- malloryerik 8y ago
  Do you cover your devices' cams and mics?
IncRnd 8y ago
You're assuming that the US collects less information on people than other governments collect. That is not necessarily a valid assumption.

LMYahooTFY 8y ago

I agree with you, except in your singling out of China. Can you point to anything in China and say with reasonable confidence that it's not happening elsewhere?

mcny 8y ago
I want to say not with the same brazenness, if that's a word. https://mobile.twitter.com/gaoyu200812/status/996333062882344961 https://mobile.twitter.com/gaoyu200812/status/99633306288234... However, I know this isn't true. Just watched a documentary by Al Jazeera about sheriffs in the US who are in charge of running county jails. This is why we need to protect the rights of whistleblowers. The funny thing is that here in the US we have somehow placated must people into thinking they're a-ok if they're white. In hindsight, this is the main coup of the civil war and how the South actually won the civil war even after losing the war. Just reframe the question and make it about whites versus blacks. My favorite story is a young white woman who moved to Overland Park, Kansas is greeted by her full legal name by a neighbor who works for the police. The most likely way he knew her middle name was through a search on their database (afair, she said she usually omitted her middle name). It sounds like nothing but this is a demonstration of power and that he's watching her. We know all we need to know from the Stanford prison experiments. The guards in the experiment didn't just act rude based on race. I think more people need to be aware that this isn't about the color of someone's skin. This will be a very rude awakening for a lot of people when they get caught up.

eksemplar 8y ago

The Snowden leaks showed us that the US already have everything you just described. I’m sure China, Russia and others have it as well, but right now, as you’re browsing HN on the toilet, a NSA agent could be watching you in real time through the camera on your phone.

EGreg 8y ago
They could know exactly where you are in the house and read every one of your files through back doors. They have all your private keys and sign anything as you and then incriminate you using it.
- acjohnson55 8y ago
  I think people are so naive to think that crypto keeps them secure.
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malloryerik 8y ago
Do you cover your devices' cams and mics?

IncRnd 8y ago

You're assuming that the US collects less information on people than other governments collect. That is not necessarily a valid assumption.