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The only irresponsible car company has been Tesla (and Uber). All the other companies positioned their adaptive systems correctly and very conservatively. Tesla

The only irresponsible car company has been Tesla (and Uber). All the other companies positioned their adaptive systems correctly and very conservatively. Tesla came out and downright asserted their system was autonomous[1]. Predictably, they have since had to scale that back significantly. [1]https://www.tesla.com/en_CA/videos/autopilot-self-driving-hardware-neighborhood-long https://www.tesla.com/en_CA/videos/autopilot-self-driving-ha...

buvanshak 8y ago
They have also been asked to rename the "Autopilot" feature.. https://www.forbes.com/sites/bertelschmitt/2016/10/14/german-government-asks-tesla-to-rename-autopilot-and-drivers-to-read-their-owners-manual/#28c652be51d2 https://www.forbes.com/sites/bertelschmitt/2016/10/14/german...
- azernik 8y ago
  Ooooh. The German original is harsh. "So-called Autopilot."
- ryzvonusef 8y ago
  October 2016...what happened since then? Anybody got an update?
dmode 8y ago
Tesla literally never says that autopilot system is self driving and has repeated nags and reminders to keep hands on the wheel and pay attention. This message is repeated during onboarding, training videos, and manual etc. 99% of Tesla owners follow these instructions. There will of course be 1% drivers who will not.
- buvanshak 8y ago
  >99% of Tesla owners follow these instructions. There will of course be 1% drivers who will not. Where did you pull those numbers from?
- em500 8y ago
  This is their marketing copy: https://www.tesla.com/autopilot https://www.tesla.com/autopilot Somewhere in the middle of the page there's one "Every driver is responsible for remaining alert and active when using Autopilot, and must be prepared to take action at any time." But everything on the rest of the page is about convincing you that the car can drive itself better than you can.
- icc97 8y ago
  > repeated nags and reminders to keep hands on the wheel and pay attention Above 45mph hands free is allowed for 3 minutes [0] when following another car or 1 minute if not. There's no eye tracking unlike Super Cruise [1]. It only takes seconds to get distracted as the video of the Uber driver proved. > There will of course be 1% drivers who will not. It's the 1% that kill people. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_Autopilot#Alerts https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_Autopilot#Alerts [1]: http://www.cadillac.com/world-of-cadillac/innovation/super-cruise http://www.cadillac.com/world-of-cadillac/innovation/super-c...
- macspoofing 8y ago
  >Tesla literally never says that autopilot system is self driving and has repeated nags and reminders to keep hands on the wheel and pay attention. When Tesla was debuting Autopilot I got the sense that the system was more than your typical adaptive cruise control + lane assist that was solely designed for long straight roads. That was implied in the marketing, and messaging from Musk. Did the system even provide something as rudimentary as an audible warning if a driver climbed into their back seat like some dumbasses on YouTube? >This message is repeated during onboarding, training videos, and manual etc. 99% of Tesla owners follow these instructions. I bet it is now.
- dm319 8y ago
  > never says that autopilot system is self driving That sentence sounds strange to me. It is called 'autopilot', and in our society's mindshare - this means self-driving. Either way, the public believe these cars are self-driving, and as a result, people likely buy the car for this feature.

buvanshak 8y ago

They have also been asked to rename the "Autopilot" feature.. https://www.forbes.com/sites/bertelschmitt/2016/10/14/german-government-asks-tesla-to-rename-autopilot-and-drivers-to-read-their-owners-manual/#28c652be51d2 https://www.forbes.com/sites/bertelschmitt/2016/10/14/german...

azernik 8y ago
Ooooh. The German original is harsh. "So-called Autopilot."
ryzvonusef 8y ago
October 2016...what happened since then? Anybody got an update?

dmode 8y ago

Tesla literally never says that autopilot system is self driving and has repeated nags and reminders to keep hands on the wheel and pay attention. This message is repeated during onboarding, training videos, and manual etc. 99% of Tesla owners follow these instructions. There will of course be 1% drivers who will not.

buvanshak 8y ago
>99% of Tesla owners follow these instructions. There will of course be 1% drivers who will not. Where did you pull those numbers from?
em500 8y ago
This is their marketing copy: https://www.tesla.com/autopilot https://www.tesla.com/autopilot Somewhere in the middle of the page there's one "Every driver is responsible for remaining alert and active when using Autopilot, and must be prepared to take action at any time." But everything on the rest of the page is about convincing you that the car can drive itself better than you can.
icc97 8y ago
> repeated nags and reminders to keep hands on the wheel and pay attention Above 45mph hands free is allowed for 3 minutes [0] when following another car or 1 minute if not. There's no eye tracking unlike Super Cruise [1]. It only takes seconds to get distracted as the video of the Uber driver proved. > There will of course be 1% drivers who will not. It's the 1% that kill people. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_Autopilot#Alerts https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_Autopilot#Alerts [1]: http://www.cadillac.com/world-of-cadillac/innovation/super-cruise http://www.cadillac.com/world-of-cadillac/innovation/super-c...
macspoofing 8y ago
>Tesla literally never says that autopilot system is self driving and has repeated nags and reminders to keep hands on the wheel and pay attention. When Tesla was debuting Autopilot I got the sense that the system was more than your typical adaptive cruise control + lane assist that was solely designed for long straight roads. That was implied in the marketing, and messaging from Musk. Did the system even provide something as rudimentary as an audible warning if a driver climbed into their back seat like some dumbasses on YouTube? >This message is repeated during onboarding, training videos, and manual etc. 99% of Tesla owners follow these instructions. I bet it is now.
dm319 8y ago
> never says that autopilot system is self driving That sentence sounds strange to me. It is called 'autopilot', and in our society's mindshare - this means self-driving. Either way, the public believe these cars are self-driving, and as a result, people likely buy the car for this feature.