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Let's keep things civil please. Saying "I can only imagine that you're trying to start a fight" is rarely helpful.

klodolph 8y ago
Okay, rewritten. I honestly thought the parent comment was baiting, since complaining about C++ safety is... well, rarely helpful and usually just starts arguments.
- Stratoscope 8y ago
  Thank you for the rewrite, much appreciated. If I may offer a tip, when someone takes a position that seems unreasonable or baiting or argument-prone, I try to apply the principle of charity: I assume that their intentions are good. Of course I don't always succeed at this! ;-)
  - klodolph 8y ago
    Sometimes the principle of charity is quite harsh, because in some cases if you assume that someone has good intentions, you come across as condescending and make it sound like you think they're ignorant. So I don't think that the principle of charity is always the right approach. The tone of the original comment starting with "Oh please" doesn't incline me towards a charitable interpretation, and it still doesn't.
    - Stratoscope 8y ago
      You are certainly right about that. Perhaps this is where it becomes an art instead of a science. How can we create a positive conversation that we can all learn from, even when people say such obviously provocative things as "Oh please"? If someone takes that kind of attitude, so what? You'll never lose by taking the high road; I've found it to be a very rewarding exercise to try to be chill regardless. Of course as I mentioned, I don't always succeed. At least I try to be like the old Shadio Rack: "You've got answers? We've got questions."
      - klodolph 8y ago
        Emphatically disagree. You can lose by taking the high road, because it costs time and energy. Being chill regardless is an unhealthy habit, I've found it better to allow myself to feel whatever I happen to be feeling (mindfulness), and share my feelings with others when appropriate. This will inevitably be "not chill" from time to time but it's healthier.
    - mlvljr 8y ago
      Check who the author is though

Okay, rewritten. I honestly thought the parent comment was baiting, since complaining about C++ safety is... well, rarely helpful and usually just starts arguments.

Stratoscope 8y ago
Thank you for the rewrite, much appreciated. If I may offer a tip, when someone takes a position that seems unreasonable or baiting or argument-prone, I try to apply the principle of charity: I assume that their intentions are good. Of course I don't always succeed at this! ;-)
- klodolph 8y ago
  Sometimes the principle of charity is quite harsh, because in some cases if you assume that someone has good intentions, you come across as condescending and make it sound like you think they're ignorant. So I don't think that the principle of charity is always the right approach. The tone of the original comment starting with "Oh please" doesn't incline me towards a charitable interpretation, and it still doesn't.
  - Stratoscope 8y ago
    You are certainly right about that. Perhaps this is where it becomes an art instead of a science. How can we create a positive conversation that we can all learn from, even when people say such obviously provocative things as "Oh please"? If someone takes that kind of attitude, so what? You'll never lose by taking the high road; I've found it to be a very rewarding exercise to try to be chill regardless. Of course as I mentioned, I don't always succeed. At least I try to be like the old Shadio Rack: "You've got answers? We've got questions."
    - klodolph 8y ago
      Emphatically disagree. You can lose by taking the high road, because it costs time and energy. Being chill regardless is an unhealthy habit, I've found it better to allow myself to feel whatever I happen to be feeling (mindfulness), and share my feelings with others when appropriate. This will inevitably be "not chill" from time to time but it's healthier.
  - mlvljr 8y ago
    Check who the author is though