> unless you are seeing something like people with absolutely no programming experience applying for senior roles Yeah, I see things like folks with a twelve-w

> unless you are seeing something like people with absolutely no programming experience applying for senior roles Yeah, I see things like folks with a twelve-week bootcamp and no prior experience applying for a full-stack position aimed at junior-to-mid candidates. That's clearly a vastly under qualified applicant. A close friend and mentor was on the advisory board for one of the coding camps and had me do mock interviews. The quality is atrocious, and only those with prior experience end up coming out worth a damn. I've seen grown men break down and cry because FizzBuzz was too much for them and, yes, I made sure they had prior knowledge of the relevant mathematical operations and syntax. Further, there are a lot of sub-par contracting organizations. Warm-body-in-seat type operations. This further results in lots of unqualified applicants, but they're harder to filter out because on paper they look decent when in reality they have on years experience ten times over. The conversations usually turn sour when you simply cannot pay a senior salary to someone with the knowledge and skillset of, at best, a good junior. > I don't think it is appropriate to make judgements like "vastly unqualified" based solely on a resume, > (which, BTW, is something I very rarely see myself). FWIW, I don't find replying in such a manner to be very appropriate. It almost seems as if I'm being accused of conversing in bad faith. I have my experiences in my neck of the woods, and you yours. Unless we known one another, you don't know what I've seen.