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> he has faith Like you > he accepts that there is (not) an all powerful god so practically no argument can change that belief Like you. Atheist is a belief

by mamcx 8y ago

> he has faith Like you > he accepts that there is (not) an all powerful god so practically no argument can change that belief Like you. Atheist is a belief system. Inflexible and closed-minded. Is not way around that. You can't take a position and at the same time claim to be open to all positions. Any change of side requiere some extraordinary event. --- If God build the brain, part of the "materials" and "formula" are OUTSIDE our reality. How can a Super Mario Bros character build a human-like brain if in his realm not exist biologic material, and their natural laws are a snapshot of the full ones?

mamcx 8y ago
Its interesting how some react to the idea, as if it were a insult. Is not. The problem is not be self-aware of it.
todd8 8y ago
Yes, I've heard this argument before (from my father), but I don't buy it. First, I'm not, perhaps, what you are claiming, a close minded inflexible atheist. I am perfectly willing to consider claims backed by evidence. So far, most religious claims don't seem to persuade me, the gods I've heard of don't seem to be consistent with what I observe in the real world. The idea of an omnipotent omnipresent and omniscient perfect god seems quite fantastic. Where is the evidence? I've seen with my own eyes manuscripts in a museum describing dragons and there have been many such descriptions over centuries[1], but would you believe that I had one in my back yard? What would it take for you to believe that I had one there? You might want to see it, for example, but I have to say that it's invisible. Well, you might ask me how I know its there if nobody can see it. Would you simply believe me if I said that I know it's there because I can talk to it in my head and that sometimes it even answers my wishes (but not always). I think that fantastic claims like the dragon in my backyard can reasonably be dismissed until there is solid evidence. Perhaps I don't believe in your God, but you likely don't believe is a hundred others that humans have believed in either. I simply don't believe in one hundred and one. However, I am open to the possibility of an explanation for the universe's big questions, I just haven't seen it yet. [1] https://www.genesispark.com/exhibits/evidence/historical/dragons/ https://www.genesispark.com/exhibits/evidence/historical/dra...

by mamcx 8y ago

mamcx 8y ago

Its interesting how some react to the idea, as if it were a insult. Is not. The problem is not be self-aware of it.

todd8 8y ago

Yes, I've heard this argument before (from my father), but I don't buy it. First, I'm not, perhaps, what you are claiming, a close minded inflexible atheist. I am perfectly willing to consider claims backed by evidence. So far, most religious claims don't seem to persuade me, the gods I've heard of don't seem to be consistent with what I observe in the real world. The idea of an omnipotent omnipresent and omniscient perfect god seems quite fantastic. Where is the evidence? I've seen with my own eyes manuscripts in a museum describing dragons and there have been many such descriptions over centuries[1], but would you believe that I had one in my back yard? What would it take for you to believe that I had one there? You might want to see it, for example, but I have to say that it's invisible. Well, you might ask me how I know its there if nobody can see it. Would you simply believe me if I said that I know it's there because I can talk to it in my head and that sometimes it even answers my wishes (but not always). I think that fantastic claims like the dragon in my backyard can reasonably be dismissed until there is solid evidence. Perhaps I don't believe in your God, but you likely don't believe is a hundred others that humans have believed in either. I simply don't believe in one hundred and one. However, I am open to the possibility of an explanation for the universe's big questions, I just haven't seen it yet. [1] https://www.genesispark.com/exhibits/evidence/historical/dragons/ https://www.genesispark.com/exhibits/evidence/historical/dra...