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> many people have their hopes invested in the belief that these companies are building a better brighter future OT, but I'm reminded of how many times in rece
by stareatgoats 8y ago
> many people have their hopes invested in the belief that these companies are building a better brighter future
OT, but I'm reminded of how many times in recent history that we (as humans) have hitched hope for a better future on some tangential circumstance:
- the socialist notion that industrialization would bring about peace, equality and well-being for all
- the liberal notion that freedom from tyranny would bring about peace, equality and well-being for all (through trade)
- the general notion that airplanes would bring about peace since no-one would be so demonic as to drop bombs on people from the air.
Those dreams are now in shambles. I find it prudent to be highly skeptical of similar claims that have not yet been similarly disproved, i.e.
- the feminist notion that freedom from patriarchy will bring about peace and equality for all
- the popular notion that atomic weapons will end all wars since no-one would be so crazy as to start an nuclear war.
I think it's time to hitch our hopes on simply not starting wars, and simply divert our productivity towards environmental sustainability and general well-being for all, instead of waiting for some tangential causations like those mentioned to do the trick, which in hindsight doesn't amount to much more than marketing fluff.
- meko 8y agoYou are heavily oversimplifying (to the point of incorrectness) every concept you outline, reducing them all down to various flavors of utopianism. On top of that, your final call to action is a mirror reflection of what you just criticized. The truth of the matter is these concepts and many others are all weaving together in a complicated and nuanced way.
- stareatgoats 8y agoSimplifying - guilty as charged. Please show me a statement that is not. But agreed there are limits to how oversimplified things may be portrayed. I sometimes grant myself some leeway in search of a larger picture however, when I assess that someone applying some philosophers charity might find value in it [0] The main difference between those "Utopian dreams" I refer to and my own suggestion is that they hitch hopes on some technology or extraneous happening (the extent to which certainly is debatable), I just wish we would put ourselves and our own moral agency in the drivers seat more. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_charity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_charity