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They're not doing well, but they have 41% of the market share? Apple and Google dream of having that kind of market share.

stuaxo 16y ago
Exactly. Also it seems that the UI is one reason symbian phones seemed to run so slowly - with any luck Qt based phones will run quicker. Also, it shouldn't be too hard to target Symbian and Meego from the same codebase. Coding for Symbian is not supposed to be too much fun, having good tools is half the battle and I expect the Qt tools to help, whether it'll be enough remains to be seen.
herval 16y ago
If only market shares were fixed numbers. Myspace was doing very well before facebook came along. How could a current (and falling, in nokia's case) market share garantee anything about the future?
- Geee 16y ago
  Just a heads-up: http://graphics.thomsonreuters.com/F/07/GLB_SMPHN0710.gif http://graphics.thomsonreuters.com/F/07/GLB_SMPHN0710.gif Now, they've actually started to put up competitive phones in the mid-high-end of market, and top high-end coming in spring, so I'm not sure Nokia's going to fall that much.
- aberkowitz 16y ago
  There is absolutely no comparison between Nokia and Myspace. Nokia is coming out with new things like S^3 and running app contests to encourage development. Myspace failed because they did nothing when an unquestionably superior product came out.
  - herval 16y ago
    I'll believe that when I see S^3 gaining any traction. Specially with everyone else that uses Symbian jumping on Android's bandwagon...
protomyth 16y ago
I am pretty sure Apple would rather have the largest profits.
rimantas 16y ago
Apple has 3% market share, but 39% profits share. Which one would you choose?
- pavlov 16y ago
  Depends on a lot of other factors. In 1989, Apple enjoyed huge profits from the Mac. The management at the time made the wrong decision to focus on profits at the expense of marketshare.
  - forgottenpaswrd 16y ago
    Wrong decision? I don't think they could compete on the cheap with Chinese clones with razor margins then as they can't today. It is simply a different business. They are the only company that survived,Amiga, Commodore, Atari, Spectrum,all perished, so not so wrong. If you ask the cheap product manufactures in China, all want to be Apple, life is better selling a small number of units at a high price that selling millions by weight.
forgottenpaswrd 16y ago
4% when your median purchase is +600USD(huge margin) is as much as 41% of 60USD phones(and low margin).

stuaxo 16y ago

Exactly. Also it seems that the UI is one reason symbian phones seemed to run so slowly - with any luck Qt based phones will run quicker. Also, it shouldn't be too hard to target Symbian and Meego from the same codebase. Coding for Symbian is not supposed to be too much fun, having good tools is half the battle and I expect the Qt tools to help, whether it'll be enough remains to be seen.

herval 16y ago

If only market shares were fixed numbers. Myspace was doing very well before facebook came along. How could a current (and falling, in nokia's case) market share garantee anything about the future?

Geee 16y ago
Just a heads-up: http://graphics.thomsonreuters.com/F/07/GLB_SMPHN0710.gif http://graphics.thomsonreuters.com/F/07/GLB_SMPHN0710.gif Now, they've actually started to put up competitive phones in the mid-high-end of market, and top high-end coming in spring, so I'm not sure Nokia's going to fall that much.
aberkowitz 16y ago
There is absolutely no comparison between Nokia and Myspace. Nokia is coming out with new things like S^3 and running app contests to encourage development. Myspace failed because they did nothing when an unquestionably superior product came out.
- herval 16y ago
  I'll believe that when I see S^3 gaining any traction. Specially with everyone else that uses Symbian jumping on Android's bandwagon...

protomyth 16y ago

I am pretty sure Apple would rather have the largest profits.

rimantas 16y ago

Apple has 3% market share, but 39% profits share. Which one would you choose?

pavlov 16y ago
Depends on a lot of other factors. In 1989, Apple enjoyed huge profits from the Mac. The management at the time made the wrong decision to focus on profits at the expense of marketshare.
- forgottenpaswrd 16y ago
  Wrong decision? I don't think they could compete on the cheap with Chinese clones with razor margins then as they can't today. It is simply a different business. They are the only company that survived,Amiga, Commodore, Atari, Spectrum,all perished, so not so wrong. If you ask the cheap product manufactures in China, all want to be Apple, life is better selling a small number of units at a high price that selling millions by weight.

forgottenpaswrd 16y ago

4% when your median purchase is +600USD(huge margin) is as much as 41% of 60USD phones(and low margin).