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Do you have anything to back up that he was joking besides the backtracking statements he made years after the original video and only after getting massive amo

by opencl 8y ago

Do you have anything to back up that he was joking besides the backtracking statements he made years after the original video and only after getting massive amounts of negative backlash about it? If making a several-minute-long homophobic rant 'as a joke' (a joke so funny that he apparently didn't want the public to see it because the video was unlisted), in a way that is entirely indistinguishable from actually hating gay people, is somehow not 'strong evidence' of being homophobic then I have no idea what is.

thinkingemote 8y ago
the Directors by Mel Brooks would probably be an anti Semitic pro nazi film using that rationale
- ghaff 8y ago
  The Producers. I have wondered if that film might be a bit too edgy for mainstream audiences today. On the other hand, it had a good Broadway run long after the film, so people would probably be fine for the most part.
- opencl 8y ago
  Have you actually watched the video in question? These are completely different things. The Producers was clearly satire, it was marketed as satire, everyone knew it was satire. There is generally room for interpretation with satire, but I am finding it extremely difficult to give this particular person the benefit of the doubt. If Mel Brooks filmed himself talking about how Nazis are great in an entirely serious tone, other than the bit where he laughed about how funny it was so many Jews died and calling it fantastic (Pogo did exactly this with the Pulse shooting), never releasing the footage, and then years later somebody found the footage and everyone was mad at him for liking Nazis, and then he said it was a joke and people shouldn't be mad at him, then it would be like this situation. But it isn't, it's completely different. Do you also think the Nixon tapes weren't evidence of Nixon being anti-Semitic? If he had just said he really didn't mean it and he was sorry, it all would have been okay?

by opencl 8y ago

thinkingemote 8y ago

the Directors by Mel Brooks would probably be an anti Semitic pro nazi film using that rationale

ghaff 8y ago
The Producers. I have wondered if that film might be a bit too edgy for mainstream audiences today. On the other hand, it had a good Broadway run long after the film, so people would probably be fine for the most part.
opencl 8y ago
Have you actually watched the video in question? These are completely different things. The Producers was clearly satire, it was marketed as satire, everyone knew it was satire. There is generally room for interpretation with satire, but I am finding it extremely difficult to give this particular person the benefit of the doubt. If Mel Brooks filmed himself talking about how Nazis are great in an entirely serious tone, other than the bit where he laughed about how funny it was so many Jews died and calling it fantastic (Pogo did exactly this with the Pulse shooting), never releasing the footage, and then years later somebody found the footage and everyone was mad at him for liking Nazis, and then he said it was a joke and people shouldn't be mad at him, then it would be like this situation. But it isn't, it's completely different. Do you also think the Nixon tapes weren't evidence of Nixon being anti-Semitic? If he had just said he really didn't mean it and he was sorry, it all would have been okay?