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I don't understand this opinion. If someone commits a crime, they have broken the social contract and they should no longer enjoy the benefits it provides, incl

I don't understand this opinion. If someone commits a crime, they have broken the social contract and they should no longer enjoy the benefits it provides, including voting. Unless you're saying they should be able to vote a certain number of years after leaving prison, which could be reasonable.

Fnoord 8y ago
As soon as they're out of prison they're once more a full civilian. Which is not what's happening. Why do those punishments on top of serving jail time or community service exist? Don't you think rehabilitation means that a person fully integrates within society, including the benefits that provides?
- subjectsigma 8y ago
  > As soon as they're out of prison they're once more a full civilian. Which is not what's happening. Why do those punishments on top of serving jail time or community service exist? I'll be honest, I don't know enough about the topic to really answer this. Some quick Googling suggest that this is what happens, though. According to this page, [0] many states restore your voting rights automatically after your sentence is completed, and some very liberal ones even allow for voting in prison (which in my opinion is really stupid). > Don't you think rehabilitation means that a person fully integrates within society, including the benefits that provides? I don't think that rehabilitation happens instantly, so it makes sense that voting rights be restored after a period of years. Felons need to prove that they can live in the real world again before they can vote to change it. 0: https://www.nonprofitvote.org/voting-in-your-state/special-circumstances/voting-as-an-ex-offender/ https://www.nonprofitvote.org/voting-in-your-state/special-c...
  - Fnoord 8y ago
    Interesting, I read elsewhere that it was the way I described and I guess I didn't verify that information. Thanks for the link.

Fnoord 8y ago

As soon as they're out of prison they're once more a full civilian. Which is not what's happening. Why do those punishments on top of serving jail time or community service exist? Don't you think rehabilitation means that a person fully integrates within society, including the benefits that provides?

subjectsigma 8y ago
> As soon as they're out of prison they're once more a full civilian. Which is not what's happening. Why do those punishments on top of serving jail time or community service exist? I'll be honest, I don't know enough about the topic to really answer this. Some quick Googling suggest that this is what happens, though. According to this page, [0] many states restore your voting rights automatically after your sentence is completed, and some very liberal ones even allow for voting in prison (which in my opinion is really stupid). > Don't you think rehabilitation means that a person fully integrates within society, including the benefits that provides? I don't think that rehabilitation happens instantly, so it makes sense that voting rights be restored after a period of years. Felons need to prove that they can live in the real world again before they can vote to change it. 0: https://www.nonprofitvote.org/voting-in-your-state/special-circumstances/voting-as-an-ex-offender/ https://www.nonprofitvote.org/voting-in-your-state/special-c...
- Fnoord 8y ago
  Interesting, I read elsewhere that it was the way I described and I guess I didn't verify that information. Thanks for the link.