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>Unlike Apple’s limited and unhelpful MacBook Pro Touch Bar… I’m not big fan of the touch bar either, but to state an opinion as fact is just bad journalism.

lloeki 8y ago
This[0] almost made me finally accept the idea of possibly having the TouchBar on my next laptop. [0]: http://vas3k.com/blog/touchbar/ http://vas3k.com/blog/touchbar/
- deergomoo 8y ago
  I thoroughly enjoyed that article. It was a weird decision to not make the default state of the Touch Bar be a widget bin. They could even have launched yet another App Store for it.
eksemplar 8y ago
There isn’t any real description of how the thing operates either. I mean, a big part of the reason I’m using a MacBook Pro is because it’s touchpad is damn near magic. I don’t care about office integration, all I care about is how well it operates compared to the trackpad on a MacBook, and I donut I’m the only one.
Larrikin 8y ago
The most stressful thing about starting my next job is that I've got to choose a new laptop only for work. I've only used a Mac for years and this is the first time I've ever considered switching because there are no computers they make that I actually want. Apple has really dropped the ball on their entire line and the touchbar eliminating a lot of useful keys is a pretty bad idea compared to replacing the touchpad.
- whymauri 8y ago
  I've gotten used to using the touch bar for function keys and [esc] after only a week or so. It's fairly customizable, which surprised me. I don't think it's that bad, but then again I am not paying for it (company hardware).
  - bluedino 8y ago
    Put a new Mac side by side with a touchbar Mac and try doing anything using the function keys on both. The lack of physical buttons makes it atrocious on the touchbar model.
- mikkelam 8y ago
  Just buy the one without the touchpad. Keyboard still sucks, but better than everything else..
  - SomeHacker44 8y ago
    It has a 15W CPU instead of 27W, and fewer ports. Not really a useful machine IMO. Marginally better than the MB though.
- damon_c 8y ago
  My company gave us all brand new MacBook Pros with the touchpad and new terrible keyboard. It is amazingly fast and the speakers sound great, but overall I cannot approach the productivity of my 2015 model given the increased typos and accidental Touch Bar inputs that cause weird things to happen.
- drivingmenuts 8y ago
  I managed to land a dev job where the entire enterprise is Mac-based and they issued us laptops with the touch bar. Everyone runs them lid-closed with external keyboards and monitors. Touchbar issue solved.
izacus 8y ago
Starting anything else would be a lie.
platinumrad 8y ago
Plenty of publications have always straddled the line between reporting and reviewing. The Verge in particular gives its writers a lot of freedom to editorialize, for better or for worse.
- ajross 8y ago
  It's. A. Product. Review. Do people not read these anymore or know what they are?
  - willbw 8y ago
    Yes, it is opinion journalism - it does not claim to be objective. I am as confused as you are
saagarjha 8y ago
Especially since it doesn't seem like the author has a MacBook Pro with a Touch Bar anyways; the picture provided shows one with a row of standard function keys.
sumedh 8y ago
Well I would say its a fact, replacing the physical Esc key is unhelpful to a lot of people.
ajross 8y ago
It's... a product review. Giving the author's opinion is the whole point. I mean, the subtitle of the thing is "Technically delightful, practically dubious", so it's not like you weren't clued in. Why did you wait until he bashed an Apple product to complain?

lloeki 8y ago

This[0] almost made me finally accept the idea of possibly having the TouchBar on my next laptop. [0]: http://vas3k.com/blog/touchbar/ http://vas3k.com/blog/touchbar/

deergomoo 8y ago
I thoroughly enjoyed that article. It was a weird decision to not make the default state of the Touch Bar be a widget bin. They could even have launched yet another App Store for it.

eksemplar 8y ago

There isn’t any real description of how the thing operates either. I mean, a big part of the reason I’m using a MacBook Pro is because it’s touchpad is damn near magic. I don’t care about office integration, all I care about is how well it operates compared to the trackpad on a MacBook, and I donut I’m the only one.

Larrikin 8y ago

The most stressful thing about starting my next job is that I've got to choose a new laptop only for work. I've only used a Mac for years and this is the first time I've ever considered switching because there are no computers they make that I actually want. Apple has really dropped the ball on their entire line and the touchbar eliminating a lot of useful keys is a pretty bad idea compared to replacing the touchpad.

whymauri 8y ago
I've gotten used to using the touch bar for function keys and [esc] after only a week or so. It's fairly customizable, which surprised me. I don't think it's that bad, but then again I am not paying for it (company hardware).
- bluedino 8y ago
  Put a new Mac side by side with a touchbar Mac and try doing anything using the function keys on both. The lack of physical buttons makes it atrocious on the touchbar model.
mikkelam 8y ago
Just buy the one without the touchpad. Keyboard still sucks, but better than everything else..
- SomeHacker44 8y ago
  It has a 15W CPU instead of 27W, and fewer ports. Not really a useful machine IMO. Marginally better than the MB though.
damon_c 8y ago
My company gave us all brand new MacBook Pros with the touchpad and new terrible keyboard. It is amazingly fast and the speakers sound great, but overall I cannot approach the productivity of my 2015 model given the increased typos and accidental Touch Bar inputs that cause weird things to happen.
drivingmenuts 8y ago
I managed to land a dev job where the entire enterprise is Mac-based and they issued us laptops with the touch bar. Everyone runs them lid-closed with external keyboards and monitors. Touchbar issue solved.

izacus 8y ago

Starting anything else would be a lie.

platinumrad 8y ago

Plenty of publications have always straddled the line between reporting and reviewing. The Verge in particular gives its writers a lot of freedom to editorialize, for better or for worse.

ajross 8y ago
It's. A. Product. Review. Do people not read these anymore or know what they are?
- willbw 8y ago
  Yes, it is opinion journalism - it does not claim to be objective. I am as confused as you are

saagarjha 8y ago

Especially since it doesn't seem like the author has a MacBook Pro with a Touch Bar anyways; the picture provided shows one with a row of standard function keys.

sumedh 8y ago

Well I would say its a fact, replacing the physical Esc key is unhelpful to a lot of people.

ajross 8y ago

It's... a product review. Giving the author's opinion is the whole point. I mean, the subtitle of the thing is "Technically delightful, practically dubious", so it's not like you weren't clued in. Why did you wait until he bashed an Apple product to complain?