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Also worth noting that the it's often the most disagreeable people who shield their actions with the label of Christianity. And of course, far too much blood ha
by quxbar 8y ago
Also worth noting that the it's often the most disagreeable people who shield their actions with the label of Christianity. And of course, far too much blood has already been shed over declaring who a 'true' Christian is.
- toasterlovin 8y agoShedding blood over identity is not unique to Christianity. It is a human universal.
- hobs 8y agoDying for what you believe in? Sure, I'll buy that. Killing for what you believe in? Nah, that's pretty much the realm of fanatical extremists, of which religion has its greater than fair share.
- toasterlovin 8y agoA peculiar feature of The Soviet Union and Maoist China is that they suppressed religion. As far as I’m aware, those two ideologies have the largest body counts ever recorded.
- willvarfar 8y agoLargest body counts as a percentage of the population? Surely God holds that record, what with smiting everyone but Noah?
- toasterlovin 8y agoI prefer to stick with historical (as opposed to mythical) facts.
- willvarfar 8y agoYou edited your reply ;). Replying to the first edit, You mean that The Flood took longer to kill everyone who wasn't on The Ark? And to your second edits meaning: I also like to stick to facts, but I was replying to Christians claiming that non-godly people are more evil than godly people by pointing out how nasty they believe God to be. Estimates of how many citizens were killed in the Soviet Union vary and depend on how you count and what you count https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_deaths_in_the_Soviet_Union_under_Joseph_Stalin https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_deaths_in_the_Sovi... 2-6m seems a bad enough number for Internet arguments. Ww2 killed 60-80m and that was caused by Hitler who was Catholic (although he didn't kill in the name of religion). Of course other things God supposedly created have killed far more, such as Spanish Flu which killed 500m and The Black Death which killed 30-60% of everyone in Europe.
- toasterlovin 8y ago> You edited your reply ;) Guilty as charged! The conversation was generally about what people do in the name of religion. What god has supposedly done is not really relevant to that...
- lomnakkus 8y agoBoth of those examples were effectively a religion-as-state with their state heads elevated to the status of gods. I don't think all that many non-religious people actually care/object when religious people practice their religion as long as it doesn't infringe on anyone else's rights.
- humanrebar 8y agoYou're defining "religion" broadly enough that some religions would be considered anti-religion.
- lomnakkus 8y agoHow so? These examples share a huge number of common traits with (fundamentalist) religion.