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If you don't mind expanding a bit, what would you say to a Spacemacs user to encourage that user to explore vanilla emacs?

• onyva 8y ago
  Spacemacs feels very abstracted. It’s great to have so much work done for you, but the knowledge is not transferable. Unless you develop layers yourself and can understand the internals, be difficult to use your knowledge outside of spacemacs. I’ve looked at the module abstracts in doom and they don’t look foreign. They do look way above my level of emacs lisp tough. There’s also the evil stuff in spacemacs which is great and I grew fond of, but if you’re not familiar with emacs’ native bindings, it makes it impossible to use vanilla emacs when you have too.
  • pritambaral 8y ago
    > There’s also the evil stuff in spacemacs which is great and I grew fond of, but if you’re not familiar with emacs’ native bindings, it makes it impossible to use vanilla emacs when you have too. In such situations, if one cannot install spacemacs, at least they can use vim. There's also the fact that some evil users use it because they want to edit text the vim way and not the emacs way. Such people wouldn't want to use vanilla emacs anyway.
    • rashkov 8y ago
      I think that onyva might be referring to those situations where various plugins and emacs major modes require you to operate with emacs bindings, and are otherwise incompatible with vim bindings. It’s a bit rare but I’ve had to switch to emacs when trying to do some things in erc (irc client), eww (web browser), and eshell (terminal).