> Given how desirable abs are and how few people have them, how is it plausible that they are merely the result of effort? Surely if all you had to do was follo

> Given how desirable abs are and how few people have them, how is it plausible that they are merely the result of effort? Surely if all you had to do was follow X program for Y months, most men would have abs. But they don't. As someone who has been fat in what feels like a different life, and today enjoys a developed athletic physique, I find your comment ridiculous. It sounds like the kind of self-delusion an overweight, unfunny person engages in to feel better about themselves while avoiding the challenge to be healthier, more attractive, or have a better personality. People are lazy, lack discipline, and are surrounded by poor choices, these are the dominant factors.