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Abs and sense of humor determined by genetics? Surely you jest.

toasterlovin 8y ago
Given how desirable abs are and how few people have them, how is it plausible that they are merely the result of effort? Surely if all you had to do was follow X program for Y months, most men would have abs. But they don't. Similar situation for humor. Women consistently rate a sense of humor as one of the key things they are attracted to. Yet most men are not funny. Surely if all you had to do to be funny was follow X program for Y months, most men would be Dave Chappelle. But they're not. Probably because being funny is some kind of an indicator of intelligence that can't be developed or faked easily. And that's probably why women are attracted to it: it's a reliable, genuine indicator of genetic quality.
- newnewpdro 8y ago
  > Given how desirable abs are and how few people have them, how is it plausible that they are merely the result of effort? Surely if all you had to do was follow X program for Y months, most men would have abs. But they don't. As someone who has been fat in what feels like a different life, and today enjoys a developed athletic physique, I find your comment ridiculous. It sounds like the kind of self-delusion an overweight, unfunny person engages in to feel better about themselves while avoiding the challenge to be healthier, more attractive, or have a better personality. People are lazy, lack discipline, and are surrounded by poor choices, these are the dominant factors.
  - toasterlovin 8y ago
    Sorry, there are parallel threads going, so I'm going to abandon this one. That said, I misspoke slightly here and rather than rehashing everything, I'll point you to my response to naasking.
- loco5niner 8y ago
  > Surely if all you had to do was follow X program for Y months, most men would have abs. But they don't. Discipline, determination, motivation vs laziness? This is pretty true for success in anything. Eat less, exercise more -> better body. Spend less than you earn -> better financial stability. Etc. Certainly there are some who could never have abs. I doubt it's very many though.

Given how desirable abs are and how few people have them, how is it plausible that they are merely the result of effort? Surely if all you had to do was follow X program for Y months, most men would have abs. But they don't. Similar situation for humor. Women consistently rate a sense of humor as one of the key things they are attracted to. Yet most men are not funny. Surely if all you had to do to be funny was follow X program for Y months, most men would be Dave Chappelle. But they're not. Probably because being funny is some kind of an indicator of intelligence that can't be developed or faked easily. And that's probably why women are attracted to it: it's a reliable, genuine indicator of genetic quality.

newnewpdro 8y ago
> Given how desirable abs are and how few people have them, how is it plausible that they are merely the result of effort? Surely if all you had to do was follow X program for Y months, most men would have abs. But they don't. As someone who has been fat in what feels like a different life, and today enjoys a developed athletic physique, I find your comment ridiculous. It sounds like the kind of self-delusion an overweight, unfunny person engages in to feel better about themselves while avoiding the challenge to be healthier, more attractive, or have a better personality. People are lazy, lack discipline, and are surrounded by poor choices, these are the dominant factors.
- toasterlovin 8y ago
  Sorry, there are parallel threads going, so I'm going to abandon this one. That said, I misspoke slightly here and rather than rehashing everything, I'll point you to my response to naasking.
loco5niner 8y ago
> Surely if all you had to do was follow X program for Y months, most men would have abs. But they don't. Discipline, determination, motivation vs laziness? This is pretty true for success in anything. Eat less, exercise more -> better body. Spend less than you earn -> better financial stability. Etc. Certainly there are some who could never have abs. I doubt it's very many though.