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For an example of this been done well, check out Royal Caribbean's Virtual Balconies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4__AIB8Bl-4 https://www.youtube.com/watch

by Darthy 8y ago

For an example of this been done well, check out Royal Caribbean's Virtual Balconies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4__AIB8Bl-4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4__AIB8Bl-4 Note that RCI did not remove any windows, but instead used tech to give a window to people in inside cabins where there are no windows. IMHO this should be the way to go for planes as well: Give everybody a window seat, with VR. And then also use that VR to show all those movies in a virtual cinema, show VR games etc.

rbanffy 8y ago
And some people would even pay more for that "enhanced" experience. And nothing says their experience should be limited to actual views of the outside - they could have the sensation of traveling through space at hyper-relativistic speeds or whatever experience they want. In return, I'd be very happy if my window seat faced the window and my back a narrow corridor. I'll fetch my meals from the galley myself, if that's what it takes. On airliners, at the very least, they could add good cameras with removable IR filters to all new planes and pipe real-time video (from gate to gate) to the entertainment system. Flying and being able to watch the Milky Way from above the clouds would be a memorable experience. Has anyone in management even consider what makes people learn to fly themselves in the first place? Hint: it's not the paycheck.
SOLAR_FIELDS 8y ago
I thought this was pretty cool, but the people in that video thought that it was the most amazing thing ever. Pretty funny.
decebalus1 8y ago
I don't know about you, but I find that to be dystopian and weird. Nothing against windowless airplanes but damn, that thing is weird and scary. It's straight out of Black Mirror [1]. One of these days some PM will have the great idea to overlay some promo bullshit on top of it and in the future basically make you watch 'safety' messages or ads. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifteen_Million_Merits https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifteen_Million_Merits
- Darthy 8y ago
  Note that you can turn it off at any time. And there are no ads there, it's just a pure 4K 60fps stream from the bridge with some artifical railings rendered on top. There are even 2 cameras, one for each side, and you get the view in the correct direction. My position is also to not remove any windows, but give the 90% of passengers without a window seat a window seat.
  - decebalus1 8y ago
    > Note that you can turn it off at any time. And there are no ads there, it's just a pure 4K 60fps stream from the bridge with some artifical railings rendered on top. There are even 2 cameras, one for each side, and you get the view in the correct direction. I'm not saying that your wrong or that's it's not interesting/cool, I'm just saying give it a few years and some profit forecast misses and then we'll talk.

by Darthy 8y ago

rbanffy 8y ago

And some people would even pay more for that "enhanced" experience. And nothing says their experience should be limited to actual views of the outside - they could have the sensation of traveling through space at hyper-relativistic speeds or whatever experience they want. In return, I'd be very happy if my window seat faced the window and my back a narrow corridor. I'll fetch my meals from the galley myself, if that's what it takes. On airliners, at the very least, they could add good cameras with removable IR filters to all new planes and pipe real-time video (from gate to gate) to the entertainment system. Flying and being able to watch the Milky Way from above the clouds would be a memorable experience. Has anyone in management even consider what makes people learn to fly themselves in the first place? Hint: it's not the paycheck.

SOLAR_FIELDS 8y ago

I thought this was pretty cool, but the people in that video thought that it was the most amazing thing ever. Pretty funny.

decebalus1 8y ago

I don't know about you, but I find that to be dystopian and weird. Nothing against windowless airplanes but damn, that thing is weird and scary. It's straight out of Black Mirror [1]. One of these days some PM will have the great idea to overlay some promo bullshit on top of it and in the future basically make you watch 'safety' messages or ads. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifteen_Million_Merits https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifteen_Million_Merits

Darthy 8y ago
Note that you can turn it off at any time. And there are no ads there, it's just a pure 4K 60fps stream from the bridge with some artifical railings rendered on top. There are even 2 cameras, one for each side, and you get the view in the correct direction. My position is also to not remove any windows, but give the 90% of passengers without a window seat a window seat.
- decebalus1 8y ago
  > Note that you can turn it off at any time. And there are no ads there, it's just a pure 4K 60fps stream from the bridge with some artifical railings rendered on top. There are even 2 cameras, one for each side, and you get the view in the correct direction. I'm not saying that your wrong or that's it's not interesting/cool, I'm just saying give it a few years and some profit forecast misses and then we'll talk.