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Hmm kind of a strange piece that's borderline misleading. It starts off with interesting points that are generally fixed usability issues (there's only one keyb

Hmm kind of a strange piece that's borderline misleading. It starts off with interesting points that are generally fixed usability issues (there's only one keyboard, only one trackpad, etc), but the "bloatware" section seems strangely out of place. It's basically "I personally don't use these applications" ...and therefore that supports why the MBP is in decline? That's great that he uses Firefox but... who cares? I personally have given it up for Safari and Chrome. Ditto with the rest of the apps; I still use about half of those integrated apps (yet here, too, who cares?).

liquidify 8y ago
I disagree. I know a lot of hardcore mac fans, and only a few of them use the built in mac software, and when they do, they don't use many. Every point the author made about hardware was 100% spot on though, and he made a lot more points than just about the keyboard and trackpad. Virtually every change that mac has done to the hardware has made it worse, with the exception of efficiency, and maybe a slight improvement in power. But the efficiency and power improvements are vastly outweighed by the hardware negatives. And the author is right about the software. None of the software changes they have made over the last 3 years have made anything better. It just keeps getting bigger.
haikuginger 8y ago
Plus, many of the integrated apps actually do support the platforms he's using - for example, Google syncing with the macOS Contacts, Calendar, and Reminders applications. Additionally, the macOS Messages app is way more capable than most people realize. Of course it supports iMessage, but it also supports sending native SMSs when used with a paired iPhone, either via relay or through WiFi calling with a supported carrier. It also has Hangouts chat support AFAICT, and support for any other (standardized, decentralized) XMPP/Jabber server. And the majority of the other applications come preinstalled, but can just be deleted.
dguo 8y ago
I should have elaborated on that section. The fact that I use almost none of the native software is a negative for me personally because the native software used to be a reason for me to pay the premium price for an Apple laptop. I used to use iTunes, Safari, etc. But now that I don't, the inclusion of that software in the cost of the laptop is largely a waste to me. It's definitely a very personal opinion though, hence my disclaimer at the beginning about my complaints being hard to generalize.

liquidify 8y ago

I disagree. I know a lot of hardcore mac fans, and only a few of them use the built in mac software, and when they do, they don't use many. Every point the author made about hardware was 100% spot on though, and he made a lot more points than just about the keyboard and trackpad. Virtually every change that mac has done to the hardware has made it worse, with the exception of efficiency, and maybe a slight improvement in power. But the efficiency and power improvements are vastly outweighed by the hardware negatives. And the author is right about the software. None of the software changes they have made over the last 3 years have made anything better. It just keeps getting bigger.

haikuginger 8y ago

Plus, many of the integrated apps actually do support the platforms he's using - for example, Google syncing with the macOS Contacts, Calendar, and Reminders applications. Additionally, the macOS Messages app is way more capable than most people realize. Of course it supports iMessage, but it also supports sending native SMSs when used with a paired iPhone, either via relay or through WiFi calling with a supported carrier. It also has Hangouts chat support AFAICT, and support for any other (standardized, decentralized) XMPP/Jabber server. And the majority of the other applications come preinstalled, but can just be deleted.

dguo 8y ago

I should have elaborated on that section. The fact that I use almost none of the native software is a negative for me personally because the native software used to be a reason for me to pay the premium price for an Apple laptop. I used to use iTunes, Safari, etc. But now that I don't, the inclusion of that software in the cost of the laptop is largely a waste to me. It's definitely a very personal opinion though, hence my disclaimer at the beginning about my complaints being hard to generalize.