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>your sixteen year old self to write shitty JS code Lol. JS didn't exist when I was 16, but way to miss the point! Ask your mom how many people knew anything a

>your sixteen year old self to write shitty JS code Lol. JS didn't exist when I was 16, but way to miss the point! Ask your mom how many people knew anything about the computers in the 70s and 80s. It was a very small group of mainly ostracized kids. They certainly weren't doing it to get rich.

mikestew 8y ago
Lol. JS didn't exist when I was 16 Which is why I used it as an example. No need to get personal. Ask your mom how many people knew anything about the computers in the 70s and 80s. Don't have to ask, I was there. And the number is irrelevant. Point is, you said there was "zero economic incentive". I'm saying there was plenty of incentive. Perhaps that wasn't your incentive, but that doesn't mean it didn't exist. Because it existed for others, and given that it was their primary incentive, they didn't always enjoy their jobs very much.
- Clubber 8y ago
  >No need to get personal. Eh, if you don't want backlash, maybe you shouldn't throw out things like this: "your sixteen year old self to write shitty JS code" >you said there was "zero economic incentive" I said, "there was zero economic incentive, at least for me." If you're going to be pedantic, at least read what I wrote.
  - mikestew 8y ago
    Eh, if you don't want backlash, maybe you shouldn't throw out things like this: "your sixteen year old self to write shitty JS code" You're just bound and determined to take offense, eh? Let me rephrase: "no need to make it personally about you, Clubber". If you're going to be pedantic, at least read what I wrote. I read just fine: "When people like us started doing it, there was zero economic incentive..."
    - Clubber 8y ago
      Mike, if you are going to talk shit, at least own it; don't backpedal. >I read just fine: "When people like us started doing it, there was zero economic incentive..." Lol. "You didn't build that..."
MisterOctober 8y ago
My dad-in-law has a CS degree that be got in like 1968, and there were a lot of folks in the field at that time according to him. He got started in FORTRAN and COBOL -- he was not a hipster nerd by any stretch of the imagination, just a regular nine-to-five dude. I get the impression from him that largely, in the pre-RMS era anyway, regular programmers were just like any other type of engineerish folk

mikestew 8y ago

Lol. JS didn't exist when I was 16 Which is why I used it as an example. No need to get personal. Ask your mom how many people knew anything about the computers in the 70s and 80s. Don't have to ask, I was there. And the number is irrelevant. Point is, you said there was "zero economic incentive". I'm saying there was plenty of incentive. Perhaps that wasn't your incentive, but that doesn't mean it didn't exist. Because it existed for others, and given that it was their primary incentive, they didn't always enjoy their jobs very much.

Clubber 8y ago
>No need to get personal. Eh, if you don't want backlash, maybe you shouldn't throw out things like this: "your sixteen year old self to write shitty JS code" >you said there was "zero economic incentive" I said, "there was zero economic incentive, at least for me." If you're going to be pedantic, at least read what I wrote.
- mikestew 8y ago
  Eh, if you don't want backlash, maybe you shouldn't throw out things like this: "your sixteen year old self to write shitty JS code" You're just bound and determined to take offense, eh? Let me rephrase: "no need to make it personally about you, Clubber". If you're going to be pedantic, at least read what I wrote. I read just fine: "When people like us started doing it, there was zero economic incentive..."
  - Clubber 8y ago
    Mike, if you are going to talk shit, at least own it; don't backpedal. >I read just fine: "When people like us started doing it, there was zero economic incentive..." Lol. "You didn't build that..."

MisterOctober 8y ago

My dad-in-law has a CS degree that be got in like 1968, and there were a lot of folks in the field at that time according to him. He got started in FORTRAN and COBOL -- he was not a hipster nerd by any stretch of the imagination, just a regular nine-to-five dude. I get the impression from him that largely, in the pre-RMS era anyway, regular programmers were just like any other type of engineerish folk