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It was solved a long time ago - just start taking 1mg of Propecia once a day as soon as you start to see the start of hair loss. Propecia will allow you to keep

It was solved a long time ago - just start taking 1mg of Propecia once a day as soon as you start to see the start of hair loss. Propecia will allow you to keep the hair you already have, well into your seventies - just ask Trump. There are even generics so it won't cost that much.

charlesdm 8y ago
It does have some nasty side effects though..
- smittywerben 8y ago
  No, this is absolutely false. Provide me a valid study. Any one of the persons here claiming finesteride has these side effects, I need a study supporting this.
  - ekianjo 8y ago
    Here you go. It's in the label of the drugs these days. https://www.aafp.org/news/health-of-the-public/20120418finasteride.html https://www.aafp.org/news/health-of-the-public/20120418finas...
    - brailsafe 8y ago
      Worth noting that this article does explicitly denounce the existence of a causal link being supported by science.
      - ekianjo 8y ago
        You would need to do explicit clinical trials to look exactly at that kind of adverse events to prove the link. Nobody is going to do that.
    - smittywerben 8y ago
      The FDA also uses black-box warnings for antidepressants. It's an association closely tied to a high risk population.
  - smittywerben 8y ago
    Downvote all you want, but this is a classic case of a nocebo. "the group informed about the sexual adverse effects of finasteride reported increased incidence of ED, when compared to the group without information" Ironically, all the fear mongering has made the issue worse. "To date, there is no evidence-based data substantiating the link between finasteride and persistent sexual side effects in the numerous double blinded, placebo controlled studies using finasteride 1 mg for hairloss." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nocebo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nocebo https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3481923/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3481923/
  - phaemon 8y ago
    This is the UK NHS take on it: http://www.nhs.uk/news/medication/hair-loss-drugs-linked-with-erectile-dysfunction/ http://www.nhs.uk/news/medication/hair-loss-drugs-linked-wit...
pests 8y ago
Propecia caused some pretty serious hormonal changes in my friend which persisted after stopping. Its apparently a known problem but still not labeled correctly. You can find many support groups across the internet with sufferers.
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- proaway 8y ago
  Over the course of a few years taking Propecia, in my late 20s, I completely lost my sex drive. When I started taking the drug, my doctor warned me of possible side effects. I figured I could just quit if that happened, and things would go back to normal. Eventually, they updated the labeling to say that side effects can persist indefinitely. I’ve talked to men who have been on it for years without experiencing side effects. I cannot say for certain Propecia is the root cause to my symptoms, there’s really no way to know for sure, but I experienced a radical shift while on it. Taking a powerful but poorly-understood drug that rewires your sex hormones isn’t a decision to take lightly.
  - hfdgiutdryg 8y ago
    I've read that it's only a problem if men ignore the side-effects and continue taking the drug. Is this not true?
    - smittywerben 8y ago
      It's hard to separate from men who don't take the drug but have erectile dysfunction. But it is a problem that propeciahelp.com trolls scourge the internet and preach how destructive propecia is.
      - proaway 8y ago
        I’m not trolling, I just saw the drug mentioned here and decided to talk about my experience. I was a healthy guy in my twenties, and my sex drive went from high to non-existent while I was on the drug. Like I said, I can’t be sure Propecia was to blame, but personally I believe there was a connection. Anyway, if you take Propecia and don’t get side effects, that’s great! Nobody said all men will get side effects and nobody’s questioning your virility.
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sunseb 8y ago
In some men, propecia/finasteride caused erectile dysfunction. So I will never take this drug.
- CryoLogic 8y ago
  That's the nature of finasteride, it lowers DHT which is one of the most impactful hormones on libido. Unfortunately, it does not return to it's original levels after cessation either. Dr. Justin Saya who is one of the best men's endo docs out there and has treated 10k+ cases of ED has suggested finasteride is a common cause of permanently lost libido and ED.
reza_n 8y ago
It works and can even allow you to regrow hair. However, your sex drive will take a nose dive. When you stop, things go back to normal, including the hair loss.
- ekianjo 8y ago
  > When you stop, things go back to normal Not always. Constant loss of sex drive has been reported to occur even after stopping the treatment, and it's part of the drug label these days.
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raverbashing 8y ago
Personal experience: no major side effects DHT is not the most important (androgen) hormone after puberty
- bluedevil2k 8y ago
  That's an odd statement. What is the most important hormone?
  - raverbashing 8y ago
    Testosterone https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dihydrotestosterone#Biological_function https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dihydrotestosterone#Biological... (though there is some margin for discussion, see the last paragraph of that section)

charlesdm 8y ago

It does have some nasty side effects though..

smittywerben 8y ago
No, this is absolutely false. Provide me a valid study. Any one of the persons here claiming finesteride has these side effects, I need a study supporting this.
- ekianjo 8y ago
  Here you go. It's in the label of the drugs these days. https://www.aafp.org/news/health-of-the-public/20120418finasteride.html https://www.aafp.org/news/health-of-the-public/20120418finas...
  - brailsafe 8y ago
    Worth noting that this article does explicitly denounce the existence of a causal link being supported by science.
    - ekianjo 8y ago
      You would need to do explicit clinical trials to look exactly at that kind of adverse events to prove the link. Nobody is going to do that.
  - smittywerben 8y ago
    The FDA also uses black-box warnings for antidepressants. It's an association closely tied to a high risk population.
- smittywerben 8y ago
  Downvote all you want, but this is a classic case of a nocebo. "the group informed about the sexual adverse effects of finasteride reported increased incidence of ED, when compared to the group without information" Ironically, all the fear mongering has made the issue worse. "To date, there is no evidence-based data substantiating the link between finasteride and persistent sexual side effects in the numerous double blinded, placebo controlled studies using finasteride 1 mg for hairloss." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nocebo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nocebo https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3481923/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3481923/
- phaemon 8y ago
  This is the UK NHS take on it: http://www.nhs.uk/news/medication/hair-loss-drugs-linked-with-erectile-dysfunction/ http://www.nhs.uk/news/medication/hair-loss-drugs-linked-wit...

pests 8y ago

Propecia caused some pretty serious hormonal changes in my friend which persisted after stopping. Its apparently a known problem but still not labeled correctly. You can find many support groups across the internet with sufferers.

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proaway 8y ago
Over the course of a few years taking Propecia, in my late 20s, I completely lost my sex drive. When I started taking the drug, my doctor warned me of possible side effects. I figured I could just quit if that happened, and things would go back to normal. Eventually, they updated the labeling to say that side effects can persist indefinitely. I’ve talked to men who have been on it for years without experiencing side effects. I cannot say for certain Propecia is the root cause to my symptoms, there’s really no way to know for sure, but I experienced a radical shift while on it. Taking a powerful but poorly-understood drug that rewires your sex hormones isn’t a decision to take lightly.
- hfdgiutdryg 8y ago
  I've read that it's only a problem if men ignore the side-effects and continue taking the drug. Is this not true?
  - smittywerben 8y ago
    It's hard to separate from men who don't take the drug but have erectile dysfunction. But it is a problem that propeciahelp.com trolls scourge the internet and preach how destructive propecia is.
    - proaway 8y ago
      I’m not trolling, I just saw the drug mentioned here and decided to talk about my experience. I was a healthy guy in my twenties, and my sex drive went from high to non-existent while I was on the drug. Like I said, I can’t be sure Propecia was to blame, but personally I believe there was a connection. Anyway, if you take Propecia and don’t get side effects, that’s great! Nobody said all men will get side effects and nobody’s questioning your virility.

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sunseb 8y ago

In some men, propecia/finasteride caused erectile dysfunction. So I will never take this drug.

CryoLogic 8y ago
That's the nature of finasteride, it lowers DHT which is one of the most impactful hormones on libido. Unfortunately, it does not return to it's original levels after cessation either. Dr. Justin Saya who is one of the best men's endo docs out there and has treated 10k+ cases of ED has suggested finasteride is a common cause of permanently lost libido and ED.

reza_n 8y ago

It works and can even allow you to regrow hair. However, your sex drive will take a nose dive. When you stop, things go back to normal, including the hair loss.

ekianjo 8y ago
> When you stop, things go back to normal Not always. Constant loss of sex drive has been reported to occur even after stopping the treatment, and it's part of the drug label these days.
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raverbashing 8y ago

Personal experience: no major side effects DHT is not the most important (androgen) hormone after puberty

bluedevil2k 8y ago
That's an odd statement. What is the most important hormone?
- raverbashing 8y ago
  Testosterone https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dihydrotestosterone#Biological_function https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dihydrotestosterone#Biological... (though there is some margin for discussion, see the last paragraph of that section)