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You say "entrepreneur", but I don't see anything wrong with the approach -- as long as you follow the laws. Often the solution the the problem is that you star

You say "entrepreneur", but I don't see anything wrong with the approach -- as long as you follow the laws. Often the solution the the problem is that you start buying the properties rather than renting them, which means profits per unit will be (much) higher (but you will also need additional capital to support that). Or you buy an entire block with 5 or 10 apartments; then there should be no complaints.

scrumption 8y ago
Because it's literally rent-seeking and leeches wealth from the economy, jacking up prices while contributing nothing?
- icebraining 8y ago
  Of course they do - they manage a place that visitors can stay in. Which is why people pay them. And you're clearly not a landlord if you think it involves no effort. Sure, if a society thinks they cause more harm than good, by all means, ban them, but that's a different argument.
  - charlesdm 8y ago
    And a short term let business requires even more effort to run. It's a lot of work, and part of the reason why (even though I think it's a great business to be in), it's not one I really want to run.
  - throwawayjava 8y ago
    >>> a person would rent out 10 apartments at $2k/mo and rent them on at $300 a night. > And you're clearly not a landlord if you think it involves no effort. The person described in the original post isn't a landlord.
    - icebraining 8y ago
      Tomato, tomato. They still have to manage renters, take care of regular maintenance (cleaning), etc. If anything they have more work than the actual landlord.
      - pavel_lishin 8y ago
        There's no way to not make this sound insulting, but do you know the actual work that a landlord has to do?
        icebraining 8y ago
        I should hope so, since I'm one. We own two apartments which we rent out, one of them on AirBnB, and handling the reservations, receiving the guests, giving them tips on how to navigate the city, constantly cleaning and replacing linen, etc, is way more time consuming than the occasional maintenance we do on the other apt, which is rented long-term. Why? What am I missing?
        pavel_lishin 8y ago
        Hm, I guess your AirBNB is pretty nice, and our building is pretty shitty - we've had to have our building's super come in at least once a month to fix this or that - pipe making awful racket, door doesn't close or latch, lock needs to be replaced, neighbors making too much noise (although sadly, that problem wasn't fixed by the super with a wrench.)
        icebraining 8y ago
        No, our building isn't that great, it's pretty old and rickety. But most AirBNB reservations are just for a few days, so during the high season we might have to come in 4-5 times a month to do all that crap I mentioned before.
  - pavel_lishin 8y ago
    But they're not a landlord. They sublease an apartment to others. They clean up after guests and put out fresh towels; they don't do the sorts of repairs and upkeep that must be done between long-term tenants.
pavel_lishin 8y ago
I commend your Lawful Neutral alignment.

scrumption 8y ago

Because it's literally rent-seeking and leeches wealth from the economy, jacking up prices while contributing nothing?

icebraining 8y ago
Of course they do - they manage a place that visitors can stay in. Which is why people pay them. And you're clearly not a landlord if you think it involves no effort. Sure, if a society thinks they cause more harm than good, by all means, ban them, but that's a different argument.
- charlesdm 8y ago
  And a short term let business requires even more effort to run. It's a lot of work, and part of the reason why (even though I think it's a great business to be in), it's not one I really want to run.
- throwawayjava 8y ago
  >>> a person would rent out 10 apartments at $2k/mo and rent them on at $300 a night. > And you're clearly not a landlord if you think it involves no effort. The person described in the original post isn't a landlord.
  - icebraining 8y ago
    Tomato, tomato. They still have to manage renters, take care of regular maintenance (cleaning), etc. If anything they have more work than the actual landlord.
    - pavel_lishin 8y ago
      There's no way to not make this sound insulting, but do you know the actual work that a landlord has to do?
      - icebraining 8y ago
        I should hope so, since I'm one. We own two apartments which we rent out, one of them on AirBnB, and handling the reservations, receiving the guests, giving them tips on how to navigate the city, constantly cleaning and replacing linen, etc, is way more time consuming than the occasional maintenance we do on the other apt, which is rented long-term. Why? What am I missing?
        pavel_lishin 8y ago
        Hm, I guess your AirBNB is pretty nice, and our building is pretty shitty - we've had to have our building's super come in at least once a month to fix this or that - pipe making awful racket, door doesn't close or latch, lock needs to be replaced, neighbors making too much noise (although sadly, that problem wasn't fixed by the super with a wrench.)
        icebraining 8y ago
        No, our building isn't that great, it's pretty old and rickety. But most AirBNB reservations are just for a few days, so during the high season we might have to come in 4-5 times a month to do all that crap I mentioned before.
- pavel_lishin 8y ago
  But they're not a landlord. They sublease an apartment to others. They clean up after guests and put out fresh towels; they don't do the sorts of repairs and upkeep that must be done between long-term tenants.

pavel_lishin 8y ago

I commend your Lawful Neutral alignment.