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For all of those who claim it might be a pipeline problem, I looked it up and it looks like 4% of engineering degrees are granted (earned? Awarded?) to African

For all of those who claim it might be a pipeline problem, I looked it up and it looks like 4% of engineering degrees are granted (earned? Awarded?) to African Americans https://www.aps.org/programs/education/statistics/aamajors.cfm https://www.aps.org/programs/education/statistics/aamajors.c... Ill leave the interpretation up to you

pests 8y ago
I'm not sure what point you are trying to make. I am sure those pointing out a pipeline problem are claiming it begins before college and those engineering degrees would be granted. Or were you supporting the pipeline theory by showing how few candidates there actually are?
- projectramo 8y ago
  Well, the question is: how much of the problem is explained by the "pipeline" theory. If a company hires x%, and there are y% graduates, then we have a pipeline problem if x=y, or is close to y. If x is much smaller than y, then the pipeline doesn't explain the whole problem. I am not taking a stance on the pipeline issue in the general case. It may or may not be a problem for particular companies on a case by case basis.
n1231231231234 8y ago
but isn't this inline with the original article? > Blacks made up 7 percent of U.S. high-tech workforce, and just 3 percent of the total Silicon Valley workforce. 4% of the degrees are granted to members of the AA community, 3% of the jobs in SV are given to them. i guess SV companies recruit from the top graduates. it would be interesting to know the percentage of AA of say the top 10% graduates in the STEM fields. as others have pointed out, this doesn't mean that things are OK. it just shifts the focus from the hiring companies to the education system
- projectramo 8y ago
  Yes, so your line of questioning is the one I would follow. I agree the next question is what is the percentage of AA grads from top schools where they recruit before one makes a call on the prevalence of the pipeline problem.
- asdsa5325 8y ago
  Geographic distribution is important. Many don't live, and don't want to live, in SV. I'm not quite sure why you are using SV as the gold standard, since there are many that want nothing to do with SV.

pests 8y ago

I'm not sure what point you are trying to make. I am sure those pointing out a pipeline problem are claiming it begins before college and those engineering degrees would be granted. Or were you supporting the pipeline theory by showing how few candidates there actually are?

projectramo 8y ago
Well, the question is: how much of the problem is explained by the "pipeline" theory. If a company hires x%, and there are y% graduates, then we have a pipeline problem if x=y, or is close to y. If x is much smaller than y, then the pipeline doesn't explain the whole problem. I am not taking a stance on the pipeline issue in the general case. It may or may not be a problem for particular companies on a case by case basis.

n1231231231234 8y ago

but isn't this inline with the original article? > Blacks made up 7 percent of U.S. high-tech workforce, and just 3 percent of the total Silicon Valley workforce. 4% of the degrees are granted to members of the AA community, 3% of the jobs in SV are given to them. i guess SV companies recruit from the top graduates. it would be interesting to know the percentage of AA of say the top 10% graduates in the STEM fields. as others have pointed out, this doesn't mean that things are OK. it just shifts the focus from the hiring companies to the education system

projectramo 8y ago
Yes, so your line of questioning is the one I would follow. I agree the next question is what is the percentage of AA grads from top schools where they recruit before one makes a call on the prevalence of the pipeline problem.
asdsa5325 8y ago
Geographic distribution is important. Many don't live, and don't want to live, in SV. I'm not quite sure why you are using SV as the gold standard, since there are many that want nothing to do with SV.