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I have noticed a similar trend at engineering campuses. So universities aren't recruiting black students?

by nomy99 8y ago

onion2k 8y ago
Why would people of color take engineering courses if there aren't any jobs for them afterwards?
- spoiledtechie 8y ago
  BUT there are. I read a fact recently that stated something like the USA, has 40k NEW Tech jobs per year and we are only graduating 10k... There is plenty of work for everyone.
- reknirt 8y ago
  I hope you're trolling.
- readingnews 8y ago
  Agree with nomy99. I work on a college campus. There was 1 African American in our CS graduate school. He was hired by Google before he even graduated. Out of several hundred undergrads, the number of "other" students is statistically zero. The college is actively recruiting any and all qualified students regardless of race. People like google and the mom & pop store down the street are legally to not discriminate based on race. How do we get African Americans to enter STEM fields? I honestly don't think your average African American student who wants to learn computer science is thinking "I am never going to get hired". Am I wrong?
- monochromatic 8y ago
  Tech companies are being actively leaned on to lower their standards to hire more black workers. Saying there aren’t jobs for them is nonsense.
  - nomy99 8y ago
    "lower their standards to hire more black workers." do you hear yourself? You have linked color with standard. Companies hire based on skill, experience and culture fit.
    - romanovcode 8y ago
      It is known fact that a lot of tech companies hire to fill a "quota". OP is actually right, unfortunately.
    - dahdum 8y ago
      Let’s assume (correctly imo) that every subgroup (race, gender, origin, sexuality, etc.) is equally skilled. If you apply a technical standard equally, you end up with a market distribution of hires. Companies are being leaned on to over represent certain groups relative to their market distribution. That’s not possible industry wide unless you lower your technical standards for that subgroup.
      - true_religion 8y ago
        Industry wide, you are right but top companies do not have to lower their standards, just invest more in finding qualified candidates. You will end up with an industry where the top players have diverse campuses, and small shops are made up of whichever ethnic group is locally available.
      - nomy99 8y ago
        First of all, in the technical field you can not lower standards by much. A person either has a degree or necessary experience or they don't. The fact that they are underrepresented is because the talent isn't there. Now, OP's statement, no matter how much justified it is logically is propagating a nasty stigma associated with black workers -- that they are here to meet a quota or are less intelligent and experienced.
        monochromatic 8y ago

I have noticed a similar trend at engineering campuses. So universities aren't recruiting black students?

by nomy99 8y ago

I have noticed a similar trend at engineering campuses. So universities aren't recruiting black students?

onion2k 8y ago

Why would people of color take engineering courses if there aren't any jobs for them afterwards?

spoiledtechie 8y ago
BUT there are. I read a fact recently that stated something like the USA, has 40k NEW Tech jobs per year and we are only graduating 10k... There is plenty of work for everyone.
reknirt 8y ago
I hope you're trolling.
readingnews 8y ago
Agree with nomy99. I work on a college campus. There was 1 African American in our CS graduate school. He was hired by Google before he even graduated. Out of several hundred undergrads, the number of "other" students is statistically zero. The college is actively recruiting any and all qualified students regardless of race. People like google and the mom & pop store down the street are legally to not discriminate based on race. How do we get African Americans to enter STEM fields? I honestly don't think your average African American student who wants to learn computer science is thinking "I am never going to get hired". Am I wrong?
monochromatic 8y ago
Tech companies are being actively leaned on to lower their standards to hire more black workers. Saying there aren’t jobs for them is nonsense.
- nomy99 8y ago
  "lower their standards to hire more black workers." do you hear yourself? You have linked color with standard. Companies hire based on skill, experience and culture fit.
  - romanovcode 8y ago
    It is known fact that a lot of tech companies hire to fill a "quota". OP is actually right, unfortunately.
  - dahdum 8y ago
    Let’s assume (correctly imo) that every subgroup (race, gender, origin, sexuality, etc.) is equally skilled. If you apply a technical standard equally, you end up with a market distribution of hires. Companies are being leaned on to over represent certain groups relative to their market distribution. That’s not possible industry wide unless you lower your technical standards for that subgroup.
    - true_religion 8y ago
      Industry wide, you are right but top companies do not have to lower their standards, just invest more in finding qualified candidates. You will end up with an industry where the top players have diverse campuses, and small shops are made up of whichever ethnic group is locally available.
    - nomy99 8y ago
      First of all, in the technical field you can not lower standards by much. A person either has a degree or necessary experience or they don't. The fact that they are underrepresented is because the talent isn't there. Now, OP's statement, no matter how much justified it is logically is propagating a nasty stigma associated with black workers -- that they are here to meet a quota or are less intelligent and experienced.
      - monochromatic 8y ago