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I don't have a popular opinion on this. I wish they did more to help the US military with AI technology. It reduces costs of human interpretation and doesn't h

I don't have a popular opinion on this. I wish they did more to help the US military with AI technology. It reduces costs of human interpretation and doesn't have the same issues with classified information in the minds of those humans. There could be great time savings and the potential for higher reliability of image interpretation if unsure AI assessments are passed onto humans for interpretation. I don't believe that the core of the US military is evil, and as an American I am happy to have it defending my country.

0x4f3759df 8y ago
China is a leader in AI and they will develop AI weapons (does anyone doubt this?) Isn't the logical conclusion the country with AI weapons will become militarily superior to one without?
- gustavmarwin 8y ago
  I speak for many people when I say the world doesn't want the U.S. to keep its military superiority. We're tired of their shit. China or U.S. having it, same difference. Although we are way way off that, a better, more organised, more democratic, more powerful U.N. should have that role.
  - 0x4f3759df 8y ago
    >China or U.S. having it, same difference. I think there's a big difference here.
    - gustavmarwin 8y ago
      Enlighten us.
      - sbarker 8y ago
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II
        gustavmarwin 8y ago
        Ah ok. I'm sold, thanks! The U.S. needs to remain the most powerful army in the world because... WW2!
        sbarker 8y ago
        No. I was referring to the difference between China and the U.S. WW2 is a good point to look at how the two world powers grew to be very different(I intrepid what you were saying was that they are the same) you know the whole 1949 communist thing, cold war into the Korean war, the U.S. having nukes and having just dropped then five years before could do it again but did not. I think that shows something not to negate some of the very horrible things that were done. If we move forward we get to 1989, Tiananmen Square. I'm just saying the two are different and enjoy a mostly open and free internet.
        domitian 8y ago
        US already lost the benefit of doubt and the excuse of WW2. They literally invented modern terrorism by training the would be terrorist orgonisation leaders against russia during the cold war. Then later invaded afghanistan and iraq for oil, which caused the rise of ISIS. From the world's perspective, US is the biggest culprit in the modern world. Invading other countries and also elected an orange buffoon as their leader.
      - Veelox 8y ago
        While the US is far from perfect, it doesn't risk your life or your freedom to speak poorly of the leader of your country as a US citizen. That same cannot be said about a citizen of China. That is the main reason I think it better that the US has the worlds leading military over China.
      - s_m_t 8y ago
        Ignoring things like democracy, capitalism, socialism, "communism", etc for the moment. China is an ethnostate. Unless you are Han Chinese you will never ever be represented by the Chinese government.
      - subjectsigma 8y ago
        Do you hate the systemic racism, military-industrial complex, environmental abuse, corruption, and overreaching government surveillance present in the US? Yes? Anyone not intentionally being dense can see all those problems are far worse in China. Then consider fact that the Chinese government is actively trying to make those things worse. It fucking infuriates me that anti-American sentiment is so trendy now that people (even as a joke) propose that China might be a better world police.
- beenBoutIT 8y ago
  It doesn't matter. Our indebtedness to China combined with the fact that MNCs lose money in world wars is something of a guarantee that there will never be a war between China and the USA.
StargazyPi 8y ago
I used to have this view; a more precise miliatary has fewer civilian casualties, and shortens wars, limiting overall destruction. However, my mind was changed by the idea that if killing people is easy, and there is little risk to the operators of the equipment, it will be done all the more. Countries will go to war much less overall, if there are higher stakes. I like there being high stakes.
- jonnybgood 8y ago
  > However, my mind was changed by the idea that if killing people is easy, and there is little risk to the operators of the equipment, it will be done all the more. Countries will go to war much less overall, if there are higher stakes. I like there being high stakes. Modern warfare is not conducted like this. Killing is already easy but that’s not how wars are won. The trend of warfare since WWII is on precision targeting. Take a look at munitions technology and systems from then to today. The US military wants to minimize casualties and collateral damage while acheiving mission objectives.
davidf18 8y ago
Google should be using AI technology to save the lives of American soldiers. It was Albert Einstein who signed a letter (ghost written by physicist Leo Szilard) written to Roosevelt about suggesting initiating what became the Manhattan project which created the nuclear weapons that saved an estimated 500,000 American soldiers lives when used on Japan. Was it wrong of President Truman to save the lives of 500,000 American soldiers?

0x4f3759df 8y ago

China is a leader in AI and they will develop AI weapons (does anyone doubt this?) Isn't the logical conclusion the country with AI weapons will become militarily superior to one without?

gustavmarwin 8y ago
I speak for many people when I say the world doesn't want the U.S. to keep its military superiority. We're tired of their shit. China or U.S. having it, same difference. Although we are way way off that, a better, more organised, more democratic, more powerful U.N. should have that role.
- 0x4f3759df 8y ago
  >China or U.S. having it, same difference. I think there's a big difference here.
  - gustavmarwin 8y ago
    Enlighten us.
    - sbarker 8y ago
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II
      - gustavmarwin 8y ago
        Ah ok. I'm sold, thanks! The U.S. needs to remain the most powerful army in the world because... WW2!
        sbarker 8y ago
        No. I was referring to the difference between China and the U.S. WW2 is a good point to look at how the two world powers grew to be very different(I intrepid what you were saying was that they are the same) you know the whole 1949 communist thing, cold war into the Korean war, the U.S. having nukes and having just dropped then five years before could do it again but did not. I think that shows something not to negate some of the very horrible things that were done. If we move forward we get to 1989, Tiananmen Square. I'm just saying the two are different and enjoy a mostly open and free internet.
        domitian 8y ago
        US already lost the benefit of doubt and the excuse of WW2. They literally invented modern terrorism by training the would be terrorist orgonisation leaders against russia during the cold war. Then later invaded afghanistan and iraq for oil, which caused the rise of ISIS. From the world's perspective, US is the biggest culprit in the modern world. Invading other countries and also elected an orange buffoon as their leader.
    - Veelox 8y ago
      While the US is far from perfect, it doesn't risk your life or your freedom to speak poorly of the leader of your country as a US citizen. That same cannot be said about a citizen of China. That is the main reason I think it better that the US has the worlds leading military over China.
    - s_m_t 8y ago
      Ignoring things like democracy, capitalism, socialism, "communism", etc for the moment. China is an ethnostate. Unless you are Han Chinese you will never ever be represented by the Chinese government.
    - subjectsigma 8y ago
      Do you hate the systemic racism, military-industrial complex, environmental abuse, corruption, and overreaching government surveillance present in the US? Yes? Anyone not intentionally being dense can see all those problems are far worse in China. Then consider fact that the Chinese government is actively trying to make those things worse. It fucking infuriates me that anti-American sentiment is so trendy now that people (even as a joke) propose that China might be a better world police.
beenBoutIT 8y ago
It doesn't matter. Our indebtedness to China combined with the fact that MNCs lose money in world wars is something of a guarantee that there will never be a war between China and the USA.

StargazyPi 8y ago

I used to have this view; a more precise miliatary has fewer civilian casualties, and shortens wars, limiting overall destruction. However, my mind was changed by the idea that if killing people is easy, and there is little risk to the operators of the equipment, it will be done all the more. Countries will go to war much less overall, if there are higher stakes. I like there being high stakes.

jonnybgood 8y ago
> However, my mind was changed by the idea that if killing people is easy, and there is little risk to the operators of the equipment, it will be done all the more. Countries will go to war much less overall, if there are higher stakes. I like there being high stakes. Modern warfare is not conducted like this. Killing is already easy but that’s not how wars are won. The trend of warfare since WWII is on precision targeting. Take a look at munitions technology and systems from then to today. The US military wants to minimize casualties and collateral damage while acheiving mission objectives.

davidf18 8y ago

Google should be using AI technology to save the lives of American soldiers. It was Albert Einstein who signed a letter (ghost written by physicist Leo Szilard) written to Roosevelt about suggesting initiating what became the Manhattan project which created the nuclear weapons that saved an estimated 500,000 American soldiers lives when used on Japan. Was it wrong of President Truman to save the lives of 500,000 American soldiers?