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raises hand I would love to be able to contribute to the linux kernel one day. But I'm unlikely to ever become part of the community when its leader behaves lik

raises hand I would love to be able to contribute to the linux kernel one day. But I'm unlikely to ever become part of the community when its leader behaves like this.

qaq 8y ago
You have to realize that extreme PC thing is very US centric and pretty recent at that.
- AnthonBerg 8y ago
  PC? This is not politically correct, this is an opinion based on free will and self-respect. “I don’t want to volunteer where the boss is an abusive asshole.” By what definition is that PC?
  - qaq 8y ago
    using profanity and being "abusive asshole" are orthogonal concepts. I obviously do not encourage anyone to volunteer in projects they feel uncomfortable with.
    - Angostura 8y ago
      They may be orthogonal. Often, however, they are related.
    - hfdgiutdryg 8y ago
      using profanity and being "abusive asshole" are orthogonal concepts In this sub-thread, you're the first one to bring up swearing.
- maxehmookau 8y ago
  I'm not American. I'm just a respectful human being who expects to be treated with respect at work.
  - qaq 8y ago
    Use of profanity is pretty orthogonal to respect but again it's very culture specific thing.
  - renox 8y ago
    And in my opinion there was nothing disrespectful in Linus'email (expect towards the standard people, but they truly did a big mistake..) so I wouldn't want to work with you as you seem 'overly sensitive'..
    - maxehmookau 8y ago
      Big mistakes happen. Solutions to those mistakes are rarely found by publicly demonising those who made the mistake.
      - ramblerman 8y ago
        > publicly demonising those who made the mistake But that isn't what is happening here at all. This code was merged. In fact Linus wasn't even yelling at the guy, rather the standards committee. Just because you don't read 'atta boy, good job' doesn't mean it wasn't good. There was no mistake here. In fact I'd be on your side if that is what he was doing.
RyanZAG 8y ago
I don't think you have to worry here. Even as a kernel contributor, you'd likely never interact directly with Linus.

raises hand I would love to be able to contribute to the linux kernel one day. But I'm unlikely to ever become part of the community when its leader behaves like this.

qaq 8y ago

You have to realize that extreme PC thing is very US centric and pretty recent at that.

AnthonBerg 8y ago
PC? This is not politically correct, this is an opinion based on free will and self-respect. “I don’t want to volunteer where the boss is an abusive asshole.” By what definition is that PC?
- qaq 8y ago
  using profanity and being "abusive asshole" are orthogonal concepts. I obviously do not encourage anyone to volunteer in projects they feel uncomfortable with.
  - Angostura 8y ago
    They may be orthogonal. Often, however, they are related.
  - hfdgiutdryg 8y ago
    using profanity and being "abusive asshole" are orthogonal concepts In this sub-thread, you're the first one to bring up swearing.
maxehmookau 8y ago
I'm not American. I'm just a respectful human being who expects to be treated with respect at work.
- qaq 8y ago
  Use of profanity is pretty orthogonal to respect but again it's very culture specific thing.
- renox 8y ago
  And in my opinion there was nothing disrespectful in Linus'email (expect towards the standard people, but they truly did a big mistake..) so I wouldn't want to work with you as you seem 'overly sensitive'..
  - maxehmookau 8y ago
    Big mistakes happen. Solutions to those mistakes are rarely found by publicly demonising those who made the mistake.
    - ramblerman 8y ago
      > publicly demonising those who made the mistake But that isn't what is happening here at all. This code was merged. In fact Linus wasn't even yelling at the guy, rather the standards committee. Just because you don't read 'atta boy, good job' doesn't mean it wasn't good. There was no mistake here. In fact I'd be on your side if that is what he was doing.

RyanZAG 8y ago

I don't think you have to worry here. Even as a kernel contributor, you'd likely never interact directly with Linus.