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> It is not unfair, because the majority of "developers contributing to it" are on those company payrolls, 8h a day during a full week. Why don't the devs at th

> It is not unfair, because the majority of "developers contributing to it" are on those company payrolls, 8h a day during a full week. Why don't the devs at those company contribute to BSD then? Care to reflect on this?

pjmlp 8y ago
MIT license, they don't need to. How much code do you think they got back from Sony, Apple, companies selling routers with BSD on them? Even Google prefers to build their own OS from scratch with MIT license (Fuchsia) than keep on using Linux for that effort. They already reduced GPL use to the bare minimum on Android by removing gcc. Then there was the whole suit which made most companies loose interest to be involved with BSD.
- mundanevoice 8y ago
  FreeBSD uses BSD License, no? Or am I missing something here? https://www.freebsd.org/internal/software-license.html https://www.freebsd.org/internal/software-license.html
  - pjmlp 8y ago
    BSD and MIT licenses are almost interchangeable regarding requirements to the code. They even appear as MIT/BSD in many projects.
    - mundanevoice 8y ago
      Citations/Examples, please? I always thought these are different.
      - pjmlp 8y ago
        Simple Google search. https://opensource.stackexchange.com/questions/217/what-are-the-essential-differences-between-bsd-and-mit-licences https://opensource.stackexchange.com/questions/217/what-are-... Relevant part: "o what both the 2-clause BSD license and the MIT license have in common are: Permits use Permits redistribution Permits redistribution with modification Provision to retain the copyright notice and warranty disclaimer In addition the MIT license also explicitly allows: merging publishing sublicensing selling However, all these freedoms are implied by the BSD license, because all these activities can be considered "use" and/or "redistribution" of the software. The practical differences between the 2-clause BSD license and the MIT license are marginal. Which one to pick is mostly up to personal taste. Especially considering that both licenses are considered compatible, so you can take code under one license and use it in a project under the other, as long as you keep the license text around." Yocto has files with such dual license. https://git.congatec.com/yocto/meta-openembedded/blob/fido/meta-efl/classes/efl.bbclass https://git.congatec.com/yocto/meta-openembedded/blob/fido/m...

pjmlp 8y ago

MIT license, they don't need to. How much code do you think they got back from Sony, Apple, companies selling routers with BSD on them? Even Google prefers to build their own OS from scratch with MIT license (Fuchsia) than keep on using Linux for that effort. They already reduced GPL use to the bare minimum on Android by removing gcc. Then there was the whole suit which made most companies loose interest to be involved with BSD.

mundanevoice 8y ago
FreeBSD uses BSD License, no? Or am I missing something here? https://www.freebsd.org/internal/software-license.html https://www.freebsd.org/internal/software-license.html
- pjmlp 8y ago
  BSD and MIT licenses are almost interchangeable regarding requirements to the code. They even appear as MIT/BSD in many projects.
  - mundanevoice 8y ago
    Citations/Examples, please? I always thought these are different.
    - pjmlp 8y ago
      Simple Google search. https://opensource.stackexchange.com/questions/217/what-are-the-essential-differences-between-bsd-and-mit-licences https://opensource.stackexchange.com/questions/217/what-are-... Relevant part: "o what both the 2-clause BSD license and the MIT license have in common are: Permits use Permits redistribution Permits redistribution with modification Provision to retain the copyright notice and warranty disclaimer In addition the MIT license also explicitly allows: merging publishing sublicensing selling However, all these freedoms are implied by the BSD license, because all these activities can be considered "use" and/or "redistribution" of the software. The practical differences between the 2-clause BSD license and the MIT license are marginal. Which one to pick is mostly up to personal taste. Especially considering that both licenses are considered compatible, so you can take code under one license and use it in a project under the other, as long as you keep the license text around." Yocto has files with such dual license. https://git.congatec.com/yocto/meta-openembedded/blob/fido/meta-efl/classes/efl.bbclass https://git.congatec.com/yocto/meta-openembedded/blob/fido/m...