And that may be a useful perspective in many instances, but it doesn't tell the real story. Those feelings are certainly not temporary for those who are succes

And that may be a useful perspective in many instances, but it doesn't tell the real story. Those feelings are certainly not temporary for those who are successful and are also unlikely to be temporary for the people left in the wake of a successful attempt. My best friend killed himself in the 5th grade, then another very, very close friend in the 8th. I've known 3 other people who I would call a friend who have killed themselves. I'm 37 years old and I still think of these people. I don't dwell, but I certainly do remember these events and their supposed causes clearly.