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One of the most interesting materials I was exposed to in a college french course was actually an 8th-grade level French history book. It was beautifully illust
by sudosteph 8y ago
One of the most interesting materials I was exposed to in a college french course was actually an 8th-grade level French history book. It was beautifully illustrated, not all that difficult to read, and it spanned an impressive amount of time and material (at least compared to the US history books I had been exposed to before)
I was really surprised to see a whole chapter dedicated to Ancient Gaul, a place I had never even heard of until then. Brits may begin their history with Rome, but us Americans seem to start our tale in England (with perhaps a very small nod to the native cultures that predated English colonization). Anyhow, it's fascinating from the American perspective how relatively "young" we really are as a national identity.
- UweSchmidt 8y agoWait, you start in Rome or England?? History lessons in western society better start in Ancient Greece, don't you think?
- nickthemagicman 8y agoI think he means American History vs French history. World History is going to world history no matter where you take it.
- bingoboingo33 8y ago>World History is going to world history no matter where you take it I'm afraid you are very much mistaken here. Having had the chance to look at primary school history book in four different countries (FR, DE, JP, US), written in four different languages, they each tell a vastly different tale. Which doesn't mean they were necessarily contradicting each other, but rather spoke of entirely different things, or shone a completely different light on a particular event. To give two simplistic examples, try to compare what is taught about Napoleon in French history book (he's a national hero) vs. German ones (he's depicted as the Hitler of his time). And try to go read about the history of WWII in a Japanese history book, you'll be amazed.
- jgtrosh 8y agoI agree with you, but at the same time feel the need to point out you disregard the previous comment's distinction of national v world histories. It does seem a bit spurious since school classes of history are mostly about creating an outlook of a country onto their relationship with themselves and others.
- UweSchmidt 8y agoMy point was that some history is more important than other. Ancient Greece lays the foundation of citizenship, democracy and lots of arts and culture important today.
- xugo 8y agoI was trying to remember my history lessons that I had growing up in France and for those interested, I find a nice link with lots of PDF for primary school : http://www.academie-en-ligne.fr/Ecole/Ressources.aspx?PREFIXE=AL5HG03 http://www.academie-en-ligne.fr/Ecole/Ressources.aspx?PREFIX...
- forinti 8y agoSo you've never read Asterix. You're in for a treat.
- sametmax 8y agoAlthough I wonder how they translate the never ending puns in English.
- pgeorgi 8y agoApparently puns can be translated rather freely (to match the cultural context of the target language), but they need to be translated back, explained and authorized.
- cannam 8y agoVery effectively. The English versions are celebrated almost as much for the translations by Anthea Bell and Derek Hockridge as for everything else. Puns are translated quite freely; in many places they make up new ones. See e.g. https://auntymuriel.com/2012/12/23/asterix-in-translation-the-genius-of-anthea-bell-and-derek-hockridge/ https://auntymuriel.com/2012/12/23/asterix-in-translation-th...
- ealhad 8y agoWow. The translations are impressive indeed, I didn't expect that. That reminds me of the French traduction of Discworld, an amazing work by Patrick Couton.
- barry-cotter 8y agoTraduction is translation in English, one of the three faux amies with -ion at end.
- ealhad 8y agoThat was me not paying attention. Though if you look closely, I got it right the first time ;)
- nyolfen 8y agowas it braudel’s history of civilizations?
- sudosteph 8y agoNo, it was this: https://livre.fnac.com/a3423616/Robert-Pince-Histoire-de-la-France https://livre.fnac.com/a3423616/Robert-Pince-Histoire-de-la-...