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Funny to see this news posted on github, after people having suggested gitea as a viable platform to migrate your github projects to ever since the MS buyout.

Funny to see this news posted on github, after people having suggested gitea as a viable platform to migrate your github projects to ever since the MS buyout. Good thing on them being open about it though, despite it probably costing them some potential traction.

the_common_man 8y ago
Many projects are ironically this way. Gitea, gogs, yunohost, sandstorm to name a few.
- aphextron 8y ago
  I think they solve different problems. Gogs is amazing for a self hosted git repo. Not so much for collaborating with thousands of people around the world. Centralization can be a very good thing if done by an ethical company with the right incentives. The only reason decentralization is useful is when you can't trust anyone for anything. I'd rather live in, and work towards, a world where that's not the case.
  - Zamicol 8y ago
    Would decentralization's value also hold true as technical barriers fall? The costs of centralized organization must continue to fall (even "negative" costs) to compete against any advantage decentralized solution realize as the cost of the technology falls.
- tboerger 8y ago
  But some (like Gitea) are working on it to start hosting it on their own. Gitea will also get federation features to make contributions between independent Gitea instances possible. But even when it starts to host, it will get GitHub OAuth2, just to keep the barrier small to receive contributions.
tpfour 8y ago
Gitea isn't meant to replace Github... it's meant to be a self-hosted alternative to it. That's subtly different. I use it for as my local git server on Debian 9. Binary is in the /home/me/gitea directory. Run the usual gitea setup, then copy this to /home/me/.config/systemd/user/gitea.service: [Unit] Description=Gitea (Git with a cup of tea) After=syslog.target After=network.target [Service] RestartSec=2s Type=simple WorkingDirectory=/home/me/gitea ExecStart=/home/me/gitea/gitea web Restart=always [Install] WantedBy=default.target Then just systemctl --user daemon-reload && systemctl --user enable gitea. Then visit localhost:3000 and add it to your remotes (git remote add local ...) and you can push your changes to your own gitea instance.
- hk__2 8y ago
  > Then visit localhost:3000 and add it to your remotes (git remote add local ...) and you can push your changes to your own gitea instance. Why would you want to run a git server on your personal computer?
  - arwineap 8y ago
    If you have ssh enabled with an accessible git repo; you already do!
    - JetSpiegel 8y ago
      Just don't forget to create `--bare` repositories on the server.
  - tpfour 8y ago
    For me it has the following advantages: - In-browser viewing of diffs and code - Issues management - Showing code to clients/other devs is simpler and prettier. - Can push to local and run tests on a fresh repo pulled in a VM Honestly as with mostly everything, it can be achieved by other means. It's just what feels good to me. It's extremely lightweight but robust and fits well in my work environment. That is all code editing is done in Emacs with millions of opened tabs in Chrome. I make extensive use of workspaces in xfce and I just Ctrl-Alt-(Right/Left) my way around going back and forth Emacs/Chrome. I could just have a file manager opened and double click on every file, or open them in Emacs, but that isn't always necessarily faster (for me). Tldr: Personal preference.
ljm 8y ago
Perfect time to attack, really. Take advantage of the MS+Github hysteria and hunt for some exploits while people are scrambling around to migrate elsewhere. Probably a bit of exaggeration there, but there's a good chance that whatever was used to exploit Gitea has been there for quite a long time. A leaked personal access token for the bot account that was there for the taking all the time, if someone cared to scan their CI logs. Something like that.
- Cyberdog 8y ago
  I'm probably out of the loop, but are people really scrambling to migrate away from GitHub? Why? Any reason other than irrational MS hatred?
  - anothergoogler 8y ago
    Rational MS hatred?
    - superflyguy 8y ago
      Shitty OSes, naff late to the party phones and music players, convicted monopolists, tend to have arseholes running the company and are now paying 7 billion dollars to buy a company purely for the reputation, and it's people who are leaving GitHub who are not rational?
      - briandear 8y ago
        Does the product still work and provide the advertised service? If yes, then yes, it’s irrational. It isn’t like leaving GitHub is a multi-month process. It could be done in an instant. It’s evacuating a house because there might be a fire in the future.
        mikeash 8y ago
        If it can be done in an instant, why wait?
jcahill 8y ago
"I get all my news from facebook. Look, a Trending story about a facebook competitor. hheheheheh" Italics doesn't make your comment any less circular or beside the point for people looking to move away from github.

the_common_man 8y ago

Many projects are ironically this way. Gitea, gogs, yunohost, sandstorm to name a few.

aphextron 8y ago
I think they solve different problems. Gogs is amazing for a self hosted git repo. Not so much for collaborating with thousands of people around the world. Centralization can be a very good thing if done by an ethical company with the right incentives. The only reason decentralization is useful is when you can't trust anyone for anything. I'd rather live in, and work towards, a world where that's not the case.
- Zamicol 8y ago
  Would decentralization's value also hold true as technical barriers fall? The costs of centralized organization must continue to fall (even "negative" costs) to compete against any advantage decentralized solution realize as the cost of the technology falls.
tboerger 8y ago
But some (like Gitea) are working on it to start hosting it on their own. Gitea will also get federation features to make contributions between independent Gitea instances possible. But even when it starts to host, it will get GitHub OAuth2, just to keep the barrier small to receive contributions.

tpfour 8y ago

Gitea isn't meant to replace Github... it's meant to be a self-hosted alternative to it. That's subtly different. I use it for as my local git server on Debian 9. Binary is in the /home/me/gitea directory. Run the usual gitea setup, then copy this to /home/me/.config/systemd/user/gitea.service: [Unit] Description=Gitea (Git with a cup of tea) After=syslog.target After=network.target [Service] RestartSec=2s Type=simple WorkingDirectory=/home/me/gitea ExecStart=/home/me/gitea/gitea web Restart=always [Install] WantedBy=default.target Then just systemctl --user daemon-reload && systemctl --user enable gitea. Then visit localhost:3000 and add it to your remotes (git remote add local ...) and you can push your changes to your own gitea instance.

hk__2 8y ago
> Then visit localhost:3000 and add it to your remotes (git remote add local ...) and you can push your changes to your own gitea instance. Why would you want to run a git server on your personal computer?
- arwineap 8y ago
  If you have ssh enabled with an accessible git repo; you already do!
  - JetSpiegel 8y ago
    Just don't forget to create `--bare` repositories on the server.
- tpfour 8y ago
  For me it has the following advantages: - In-browser viewing of diffs and code - Issues management - Showing code to clients/other devs is simpler and prettier. - Can push to local and run tests on a fresh repo pulled in a VM Honestly as with mostly everything, it can be achieved by other means. It's just what feels good to me. It's extremely lightweight but robust and fits well in my work environment. That is all code editing is done in Emacs with millions of opened tabs in Chrome. I make extensive use of workspaces in xfce and I just Ctrl-Alt-(Right/Left) my way around going back and forth Emacs/Chrome. I could just have a file manager opened and double click on every file, or open them in Emacs, but that isn't always necessarily faster (for me). Tldr: Personal preference.

ljm 8y ago

Perfect time to attack, really. Take advantage of the MS+Github hysteria and hunt for some exploits while people are scrambling around to migrate elsewhere. Probably a bit of exaggeration there, but there's a good chance that whatever was used to exploit Gitea has been there for quite a long time. A leaked personal access token for the bot account that was there for the taking all the time, if someone cared to scan their CI logs. Something like that.

Cyberdog 8y ago
I'm probably out of the loop, but are people really scrambling to migrate away from GitHub? Why? Any reason other than irrational MS hatred?
- anothergoogler 8y ago
  Rational MS hatred?
  - superflyguy 8y ago
    Shitty OSes, naff late to the party phones and music players, convicted monopolists, tend to have arseholes running the company and are now paying 7 billion dollars to buy a company purely for the reputation, and it's people who are leaving GitHub who are not rational?
    - briandear 8y ago
      Does the product still work and provide the advertised service? If yes, then yes, it’s irrational. It isn’t like leaving GitHub is a multi-month process. It could be done in an instant. It’s evacuating a house because there might be a fire in the future.
      - mikeash 8y ago
        If it can be done in an instant, why wait?

jcahill 8y ago

"I get all my news from facebook. Look, a Trending story about a facebook competitor. hheheheheh" Italics doesn't make your comment any less circular or beside the point for people looking to move away from github.