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> Under Article 13 of the proposal, sites that allow users to post text, sounds, code, still or moving images, or other copyrighted works for public consumption
by IanCal 8y ago
> Under Article 13 of the proposal, sites that allow users to post text, sounds, code, still or moving images, or other copyrighted works for public consumption will have to filter all their users' submissions against a database of copyrighted works. Sites will have to pay to license the technology to match submissions to the database, and to identify near matches as well as exact ones. Sites will be required to have a process to allow rightsholders to update this list with more copyrighted works.
I don't understand where this level of detail has come from. Can someone explain?
Here's article 13 as far as I can tell
> Information society service providers that store and provide to the public access to large amounts of works or other subject-matter uploaded by their users shall, in cooperation with rightholders, take measures to ensure the functioning of agreements concluded with rightholders for the use of their works or other subject-matter or to prevent the availability on their services of works or other subject-matter identified by rightholders through the cooperation with the service providers. Those measures, such as the use of effective content recognition technologies, shall be appropriate and proportionate. The service providers shall provide rightholders with adequate information on the functioning and the deployment of the measures, as well as, when relevant, adequate reporting on the recognition and use of the works and other subject-matter.
> 2.Member States shall ensure that the service providers referred to in paragraph 1 put in place complaints and redress mechanisms that are available to users in case of disputes over the application of the measures referred to in paragraph 1.
> 3.Member States shall facilitate, where appropriate, the cooperation between the information society service providers and rightholders through stakeholder dialogues to define best practices, such as appropriate and proportionate content recognition technologies, taking into account, among others, the nature of the services, the availability of the technologies and their effectiveness in light of technological developments.
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> after Article 13 becomes law, any information hosted in the EU might disappear—and links to US mirrors might become infringing
How would links be infringing? Also where in A13 are they talked about at all?
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I need to dig out a source but I'm near certain that there is an allowance for review, critique and satirisation of the news in the EU docs they're talking about.
> news sites may seek to withhold linking licenses from critics who want to quote from them in order to analyze, correct and critique their articles
- microcolonel 8y agoBecause fair use is the only way 80% of Wikipedia images exist. This article requires coordinating with rights holders even for uses that constitute fair use. Wikipedia contains a very large amount of content for which the rights holders are not known, no longer communicate publicly, or do not care about communicating with random strangers who may not even be authorized to make agreements on behalf of WMF. The "in cooperation with rights holders" bit is pivotal.
- Doctor_Fegg 8y agoEven before this proposal, Wikipedia would be flying very close to the wind on copyright were it hosted in the EU. "Fair use" is a US principle that isn't necessarily echoed in EU member states (the UK, for example, has a much more limited concept of "fair dealing"). It's notable that OpenStreetMap, which is hosted and governed in the UK, refuses to take data from Wikipedia because it believes it's tainted. (Specifically, Wikipedia says "you can get co-ordinates for articles by deriving them from Google Maps"[1], to which OSM says "nuh-uh".) [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Obtaining_geographic_coordinates#Google_Maps https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Obtaining_geographic...
- beberlei 8y agoBut wikipedia is not for profit, it seems the law doesnt apply to it?
- sparkzilla 8y agoThe Wikimedia Foundation is rolling in cash.
- beberlei 8y agoFifa has billions of dollars, it is still not for profit. Not for profit financially just means you cant give profits but have to reinvest it 100%
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