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Young (white) men are completely lost in the US right now. The most exciting thing in the majority of my friends lives right now (23-26 years old) are the curr

Young (white) men are completely lost in the US right now. The most exciting thing in the majority of my friends lives right now (23-26 years old) are the current challenges in Fortnite. Everyone is scared of longterm, meaningful relationships and Tinder provides the instant artificial validation to make those long-term relationships seem unnecessary. You're a tryhard if you have serious career aspirations or goals. We go to work during the week to get fucked up on the weekends. The common political/social narrative is that you're "the problem". If you're college educated, you're most likely drowning in debt. Most guys I know actively express feeling stuck in a rut or display behavior that strongly suggests it. This report doesn't surprise me at all. Love him or hate him, agree with him or disagree with him, this is why Jordan Peterson rose to fame so quickly. Guys my age in this country are almost completely aimless and without meaningful purpose. This report doesn't surprise me at all...

pjc50 8y ago
> You're a tryhard if you have serious career aspirations or goals Where did this come from, I wonder?
- djschnei 8y ago
  Lack of purpose I suppose. If I have enough money to pay rent, get trashed with the boys on the weekend, and buy cool things every now and then, why lift more than I need to at work? When my dad was my age he just recently bought a house, got married, had a kid on the way. His effort in growing his small business made tons of sense. For me, if it wasn't for my personal drive to be great at my job - a job which I have a passion for (and I know luck has a lot to do with that) - why would a try harder than I need to? I'm not really responsible for anything, you know?
krapp 8y ago
>Young (white) men are completely lost in the US right now. None of the anxiety or malaise you describe in your comment exclusively applies to white people or men, so the parenthetical seems irrelevant.
- djschnei 8y ago
  Suicide rates for non-Hispanic white Americans are the highest. Clearly, race isn't irrelevant. > By race/ethnicity, non-Hispanic whites and American Indian/Alaska Natives had the highest rates of suicide, with rates for both groups showing notable increases across periods [1999-2007, 2008-2015] (from 14.9 to 18.1 and from 15.8 to 20.0, respectively). Rates among non-Hispanic blacks and Asian/Pacific Islanders and among Hispanics were much lower and showed comparatively modest increases across periods. From https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/66/wr/mm6610a2.htm https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/66/wr/mm6610a2.htm

pjc50 8y ago

> You're a tryhard if you have serious career aspirations or goals Where did this come from, I wonder?

djschnei 8y ago
Lack of purpose I suppose. If I have enough money to pay rent, get trashed with the boys on the weekend, and buy cool things every now and then, why lift more than I need to at work? When my dad was my age he just recently bought a house, got married, had a kid on the way. His effort in growing his small business made tons of sense. For me, if it wasn't for my personal drive to be great at my job - a job which I have a passion for (and I know luck has a lot to do with that) - why would a try harder than I need to? I'm not really responsible for anything, you know?

krapp 8y ago

>Young (white) men are completely lost in the US right now. None of the anxiety or malaise you describe in your comment exclusively applies to white people or men, so the parenthetical seems irrelevant.

djschnei 8y ago
Suicide rates for non-Hispanic white Americans are the highest. Clearly, race isn't irrelevant. > By race/ethnicity, non-Hispanic whites and American Indian/Alaska Natives had the highest rates of suicide, with rates for both groups showing notable increases across periods [1999-2007, 2008-2015] (from 14.9 to 18.1 and from 15.8 to 20.0, respectively). Rates among non-Hispanic blacks and Asian/Pacific Islanders and among Hispanics were much lower and showed comparatively modest increases across periods. From https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/66/wr/mm6610a2.htm https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/66/wr/mm6610a2.htm