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My sense is that any projects willing to move from GitHub to gitlab on a Sunday evening because of a rumour that GitHub was going to be sold were not really ser

My sense is that any projects willing to move from GitHub to gitlab on a Sunday evening because of a rumour that GitHub was going to be sold were not really serious projects and losing them isn't a big loss for GitHub.

Sir_Cmpwn 8y ago
This is exactly right. However, just because some projects can't up and move on a moment's notice doesn't mean the ball isn't rolling.
- deleted 8y ago
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- greenhatman 8y ago
  Yea, my projects are still on there. But it's not going to stay there. It's just there because I've been too busy to investigate alternatives and move. But I will in a week or three.
  - rafaelvasco 8y ago
    Why move though ? Just curious.
    - nickthemagicman 8y ago
      This is my question. There's been no changes. It's still a great platform. Is it that guaranteed that Microsoft is going to mess it up?
      - dingo_bat 8y ago
        Software developers are human too. Every decision need not be rational.
    - peterburkimsher 8y ago
      I don't know if I'll move yet. Since 2006 or so, I've maintained a personal website for code/résumé, etc. At first it was hosted on http://peterburk.free.fr http://peterburk.free.fr, my parents' ISP. That was fine until I no longer lived with them, and I can't trust that it'll always be available. Also, I wanted a .com subdomain instead of a .fr domain. So in 2011, I moved to http://peterburk.appspot.com http://peterburk.appspot.com on Google App Engine. No problem, until I moved to China in 2013. All Google services are blocked there, including my page. So I migrated to http://peter-burk.rhcloud.com http://peter-burk.rhcloud.com (Red Hat OpenShift). I didn't like the mandatory dash in the subdomain, so I also set up http://peterburk.tumblr.com http://peterburk.tumblr.com to redirect. RHCloud supported PHP, so I could finally run WordPress. Then RHCloud changed to being paid-only, so in 2015 I moved to https://peterburk.github.com https://peterburk.github.com and couldn't use PHP again. Now I code everything in client-side JavaScript and static HTML. More recently, Github removed the .com subdomain service, so my Chinese-learning side project is https://pingtype.github.io https://pingtype.github.io and that confuses some users. If something happens to Github, I might try to hop to heroku, but http://peterburk.herokuapp.com http://peterburk.herokuapp.com is pretty long to type. What do other people do for ad-free hosting? I think most sites pay for AWS, but I can't have a credit card because I'm a foreigner. The design of my site is very basic, because I've had to re-write it 4 times already, typically every 2 years. I choose technologies based on the platform features, so I did know all about GAE, but now I'm more familiar with Git. My loyalty isn't to the code management tool (this is for side projects, not a business that would need collaboration with colleagues), I just move to wherever is free/not blocked by China/has an easy-to-remember domain name.
      - diroussel 8y ago
        I've started using React-static on netlify. Works well, and will auto deploy on commit to GitHub.
      - marketgod 8y ago
        Buy your own domain. It's worth the investment in your brand.
      - foo101 8y ago
overcast 8y ago
I'd consider Gnome a pretty serious product. https://www.gnome.org/news/2018/05/gnome-moves-to-gitlab-2/ https://www.gnome.org/news/2018/05/gnome-moves-to-gitlab-2/ ok. so they weren't on github. GOSH!
- glandium 8y ago
  Gnome didn't move to gitlab because Microsoft is buying it. They weren't even on github. IIRC, they were self-hosting. And they still are.
- walki 8y ago
  Gnome has never been hosted on GitHub!
- gowld 8y ago
  FYI, Nat Friedman, co-founder of GNOME, is now the Microsoft employee who is the CEO of GitHub.
  - pera 8y ago
    I believe you are mistaking Miguel de Icaza with Nat Friedman (probably because of Ximian).
    - vkbandi 8y ago
      Isn't Miguel de Icaza also with Microsoft now ?
      - Fnoord 8y ago
        Yes.
  - spondyl 8y ago
    Well, not quite. Nat cofounded a company (Helix Code, later Ximian) with Miguel de Icaza (cofounder) which then developed GNOME apps and infra.[0] Nat was a cofounder in the same way that Jeb Bush was a US president. Connected to one perhaps but not one himself. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME#History https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME#History
LanceH 8y ago
But are they serious developers? The impact might not be felt for years.
- Pywarrior 8y ago
  This is an important question, microsoft controlling the servers that host most open source code is not great but what they really bought was the community. If those developers move a small project no big deal, but, those same developers will never start another project on github and will of course stop recommending github to corporate clients. Github will become VSS.

Sir_Cmpwn 8y ago

This is exactly right. However, just because some projects can't up and move on a moment's notice doesn't mean the ball isn't rolling.

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greenhatman 8y ago
Yea, my projects are still on there. But it's not going to stay there. It's just there because I've been too busy to investigate alternatives and move. But I will in a week or three.
- rafaelvasco 8y ago
  Why move though ? Just curious.
  - nickthemagicman 8y ago
    This is my question. There's been no changes. It's still a great platform. Is it that guaranteed that Microsoft is going to mess it up?
    - dingo_bat 8y ago
      Software developers are human too. Every decision need not be rational.
  - peterburkimsher 8y ago
    I don't know if I'll move yet. Since 2006 or so, I've maintained a personal website for code/résumé, etc. At first it was hosted on http://peterburk.free.fr http://peterburk.free.fr, my parents' ISP. That was fine until I no longer lived with them, and I can't trust that it'll always be available. Also, I wanted a .com subdomain instead of a .fr domain. So in 2011, I moved to http://peterburk.appspot.com http://peterburk.appspot.com on Google App Engine. No problem, until I moved to China in 2013. All Google services are blocked there, including my page. So I migrated to http://peter-burk.rhcloud.com http://peter-burk.rhcloud.com (Red Hat OpenShift). I didn't like the mandatory dash in the subdomain, so I also set up http://peterburk.tumblr.com http://peterburk.tumblr.com to redirect. RHCloud supported PHP, so I could finally run WordPress. Then RHCloud changed to being paid-only, so in 2015 I moved to https://peterburk.github.com https://peterburk.github.com and couldn't use PHP again. Now I code everything in client-side JavaScript and static HTML. More recently, Github removed the .com subdomain service, so my Chinese-learning side project is https://pingtype.github.io https://pingtype.github.io and that confuses some users. If something happens to Github, I might try to hop to heroku, but http://peterburk.herokuapp.com http://peterburk.herokuapp.com is pretty long to type. What do other people do for ad-free hosting? I think most sites pay for AWS, but I can't have a credit card because I'm a foreigner. The design of my site is very basic, because I've had to re-write it 4 times already, typically every 2 years. I choose technologies based on the platform features, so I did know all about GAE, but now I'm more familiar with Git. My loyalty isn't to the code management tool (this is for side projects, not a business that would need collaboration with colleagues), I just move to wherever is free/not blocked by China/has an easy-to-remember domain name.
    - diroussel 8y ago
      I've started using React-static on netlify. Works well, and will auto deploy on commit to GitHub.
    - marketgod 8y ago
      Buy your own domain. It's worth the investment in your brand.
    - foo101 8y ago

overcast 8y ago

I'd consider Gnome a pretty serious product. https://www.gnome.org/news/2018/05/gnome-moves-to-gitlab-2/ https://www.gnome.org/news/2018/05/gnome-moves-to-gitlab-2/ ok. so they weren't on github. GOSH!

glandium 8y ago
Gnome didn't move to gitlab because Microsoft is buying it. They weren't even on github. IIRC, they were self-hosting. And they still are.
walki 8y ago
Gnome has never been hosted on GitHub!
gowld 8y ago
FYI, Nat Friedman, co-founder of GNOME, is now the Microsoft employee who is the CEO of GitHub.
- pera 8y ago
  I believe you are mistaking Miguel de Icaza with Nat Friedman (probably because of Ximian).
  - vkbandi 8y ago
    Isn't Miguel de Icaza also with Microsoft now ?
    - Fnoord 8y ago
      Yes.
- spondyl 8y ago
  Well, not quite. Nat cofounded a company (Helix Code, later Ximian) with Miguel de Icaza (cofounder) which then developed GNOME apps and infra.[0] Nat was a cofounder in the same way that Jeb Bush was a US president. Connected to one perhaps but not one himself. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME#History https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME#History

LanceH 8y ago

But are they serious developers? The impact might not be felt for years.

Pywarrior 8y ago
This is an important question, microsoft controlling the servers that host most open source code is not great but what they really bought was the community. If those developers move a small project no big deal, but, those same developers will never start another project on github and will of course stop recommending github to corporate clients. Github will become VSS.