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The announcement happened just 3 days ago, so it's still too early to draw any conclusions. I personally decided to move my stuff out of GitHub, but it will ta

by pera 8y ago

The announcement happened just 3 days ago, so it's still too early to draw any conclusions. I personally decided to move my stuff out of GitHub, but it will take me a week or so to know where exactly as I'm still analyzing various options. And after migrating, I don't think I will close my account (even when I really distrust Microsoft) simply because too many libre software projects are currently using GitHub.

Zamicol 8y ago
Same. It's going to take a while for me to move out of Github. I have a lot there over years and scripts that use Github. Also Gitlab's import is failing on some repos. It's also suddenly pushed me in a place where I have to suddenly find an alternative. It's going to take some time.
- ProAm 8y ago
  Can you just host a git server yourself? Not trying to be snarky but seems doable.
  - boojums 8y ago
    I have a self-hosted git instance on a VPS. It's trivial to set up for doing personal projects, but it would take quite a bit more work to properly set it up so other people could clone repos or contribute. Depending on what GitHub features Zamicol is using, it could be a pretty large project to self-host.
  - TheOtherHobbes 8y ago
    You can. It's very doable. Plenty of people do it. But the real value of GH was "social coding" - open public access to open public projects. That's going to fragment, even if GL takes over. And that will be a loss. The real problem is the lack of open public server infrastructure. In the same way that everyone has access to a browser, everyone should have access to a private server, which is secure-by-default, controllably networked, super easy to set up with a selection of server apps that include social, commerce, payments, and public/private sharing of various kinds, and cheap to run. The centralised consumer internet - where servers are far beyond the skill level of most users and can be a nightmare to set up and administer, even for professionals - is one of the reasons we have giant predators like MS and Facebook.
    - HelloNurse 8y ago
      What you call "social coding" is simply the convenience of contributing to a huge number of projects without needing a separate account or quasi-account (joining a mailing list, using OAuth/OpenID, etc.) for each. It is not necessary, it predates and doesn't need GitHub (as Sourceforge demonstrated 20 years ago), and it will simply move to other project hosting communities, with a modest decrease of convenience in the transition between one account and a few accounts.
djsumdog 8y ago
Exactly. How can they measure this stuff. You can add a new remote and push your code somewhere else, update the readme file to point to the new location, and that's a migration. That's not an easy thing for Github to track. So this statement doesn't even make a lot of sense. They simply cannot really know -- they can only measure the people who explicitly close projects and accounts.
- trisimix 8y ago
  The reality doesn't matter at this point just what people think.

by pera 8y ago

Zamicol 8y ago

Same. It's going to take a while for me to move out of Github. I have a lot there over years and scripts that use Github. Also Gitlab's import is failing on some repos. It's also suddenly pushed me in a place where I have to suddenly find an alternative. It's going to take some time.

ProAm 8y ago
Can you just host a git server yourself? Not trying to be snarky but seems doable.
- boojums 8y ago
  I have a self-hosted git instance on a VPS. It's trivial to set up for doing personal projects, but it would take quite a bit more work to properly set it up so other people could clone repos or contribute. Depending on what GitHub features Zamicol is using, it could be a pretty large project to self-host.
- TheOtherHobbes 8y ago
  You can. It's very doable. Plenty of people do it. But the real value of GH was "social coding" - open public access to open public projects. That's going to fragment, even if GL takes over. And that will be a loss. The real problem is the lack of open public server infrastructure. In the same way that everyone has access to a browser, everyone should have access to a private server, which is secure-by-default, controllably networked, super easy to set up with a selection of server apps that include social, commerce, payments, and public/private sharing of various kinds, and cheap to run. The centralised consumer internet - where servers are far beyond the skill level of most users and can be a nightmare to set up and administer, even for professionals - is one of the reasons we have giant predators like MS and Facebook.
  - HelloNurse 8y ago
    What you call "social coding" is simply the convenience of contributing to a huge number of projects without needing a separate account or quasi-account (joining a mailing list, using OAuth/OpenID, etc.) for each. It is not necessary, it predates and doesn't need GitHub (as Sourceforge demonstrated 20 years ago), and it will simply move to other project hosting communities, with a modest decrease of convenience in the transition between one account and a few accounts.

djsumdog 8y ago

Exactly. How can they measure this stuff. You can add a new remote and push your code somewhere else, update the readme file to point to the new location, and that's a migration. That's not an easy thing for Github to track. So this statement doesn't even make a lot of sense. They simply cannot really know -- they can only measure the people who explicitly close projects and accounts.

trisimix 8y ago
The reality doesn't matter at this point just what people think.