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You know I could provide more detail on the Musk thing (look up his relationship with his now estranged father - you're presenting a woefully misleading tale) b

You know I could provide more detail on the Musk thing (look up his relationship with his now estranged father - you're presenting a woefully misleading tale) but really I don't think you care. You're arguing here that Dell getting $1000 from his parents is something? $1000 is literally 2 weeks of overtime working at a McDonalds for the federal minimum wage - $7.25. I don't entirely understand why people do this. It just seems pitiable. Rather than learn from others, people seem more interested in trying to look for reasons why they can't achieve.

s2g 8y ago
> $1000 is literally 2 weeks of overtime working at a McDonalds for the federal minimum wage - $7.25. If you don't have to do anything else with that money. My parents couldn't have spared 1000 bucks just because when I was younger. Musk grew up wealthy. He's the child of rich white south africans.
- TangoTrotFox 8y ago
  He was in college! In college now a days the the average kid is going to have thousands in his bank account due to the way student loans are tossed out like candy. Or in the case where that is not true, taking two weeks off to work, or even staying in college and getting in internship and people can easily get thousands on their own. There are just so many sad excuses.
fzeroracer 8y ago
It's important to remember that $1000 in 1984 went a lot further than it does now, especially when there was a fair amount more opportunity back then. Statistically speaking the United States is among the lowest in social mobility. This is why pointing to these people is futile because not only did they have large advantages that many others did not, but they are also largely the exception to the norm. It's the survivorship bias in action.
- TangoTrotFox 8y ago
  Unemployment today is lower than it's been since the 1960s. And today vastly more people are wealthier than they've ever been. Saying there was more opportunity in the 1980s is bizarrely out of touch with reality. In the 80s, he was in college. Now a days anybody in college, which is something that's practically guaranteed to anybody that wants to and is willing to do remotely decent in high school, has access to thousands of dollars - if not directly from our excessive loans, then they can simply take a couple of weeks and work at their leisure. Or they can stay with a normal school schedule and work an internship, at a lab, or whatever else - easily earning many thousands.

s2g 8y ago

> $1000 is literally 2 weeks of overtime working at a McDonalds for the federal minimum wage - $7.25. If you don't have to do anything else with that money. My parents couldn't have spared 1000 bucks just because when I was younger. Musk grew up wealthy. He's the child of rich white south africans.

TangoTrotFox 8y ago
He was in college! In college now a days the the average kid is going to have thousands in his bank account due to the way student loans are tossed out like candy. Or in the case where that is not true, taking two weeks off to work, or even staying in college and getting in internship and people can easily get thousands on their own. There are just so many sad excuses.

fzeroracer 8y ago

It's important to remember that $1000 in 1984 went a lot further than it does now, especially when there was a fair amount more opportunity back then. Statistically speaking the United States is among the lowest in social mobility. This is why pointing to these people is futile because not only did they have large advantages that many others did not, but they are also largely the exception to the norm. It's the survivorship bias in action.

TangoTrotFox 8y ago
Unemployment today is lower than it's been since the 1960s. And today vastly more people are wealthier than they've ever been. Saying there was more opportunity in the 1980s is bizarrely out of touch with reality. In the 80s, he was in college. Now a days anybody in college, which is something that's practically guaranteed to anybody that wants to and is willing to do remotely decent in high school, has access to thousands of dollars - if not directly from our excessive loans, then they can simply take a couple of weeks and work at their leisure. Or they can stay with a normal school schedule and work an internship, at a lab, or whatever else - easily earning many thousands.